bug#61171: 30.0.50; macos build can't find native lisp folder

bug#61171: 30.0.50; macos build can't find native lisp folder

[Merrick Luo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Hi emacs team,

As show in the "Configued using" section, I compiled emacs with
ns-self-contained disabled and with aot native compilation, but the
nextstep/Emacs.app is failing to start unless I do

ln -s /usr/local/lib/emacs/30.0.50/native-lisp nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/

the error message is

Error using execdir /Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/:
emacs: dlopen(/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/../native-lisp/30.0.50-7473cdfd/preloaded/window-0d1b8b93-b6aaebba.eln, 0x0001): tried: '/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/../native-lisp/30.0.50-7473cdfd/preloaded/window-0d1b8b93-b6aaebba.eln' (no such file)

is there anything I missed with configuration or the `ln` part is required
to be done manually for it to work? please advise, thanks.

In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin21.6.0, NS
 appkit-2113.60 Version 12.6.2 (Build 21G320)) of 2023-01-30 built on
 CNMAC0440.local
Repository revision: 3f069bd796b0024033640051b5f74ba9834985f8
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113
System Description:  macOS 12.6.2

Configured using:
 'configure --with-json --without-compress-install
 --with-native-compilation=aot
 '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application
 Support/Emacs/30.0.50/site-lisp:/Library/Application
 Support/Emacs/site-lisp' --disable-ns-self-contained
 --with-tree-sitter'

Configured features:
ACL GLIB GNUTLS JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE NS
PDUMPER PNG RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP
XIM ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_CTYPE: UTF-8
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: DOOM v3.0.0-pre

Minor modes in effect:
  org-roam-db-autosync-mode: t
  global-git-commit-mode: t
  yas-global-mode: t
  yas-minor-mode: t
  projectile-mode: t
  which-key-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  better-jumper-mode: t
  better-jumper-local-mode: t
  company-box-mode: t
  global-company-mode: t
  company-mode: t
  vertico-mode: t
  marginalia-mode: t
  evil-goggles-mode: t
  evil-escape-mode: t
  evil-snipe-override-mode: t
  evil-snipe-mode: t
  evil-snipe-override-local-mode: t
  evil-snipe-local-mode: t
  server-mode: t
  gcmh-mode: t
  global-hl-line-mode: t
  hl-line-mode: t
  winner-mode: t
  smartparens-global-mode: t
  ws-butler-global-mode: t
  global-undo-fu-session-mode: t
  undo-fu-mode: t
  global-flycheck-mode: t
  persp-mode: t
  doom-modeline-mode: t
  solaire-global-mode: t
  evil-owl-mode: t
  ns-auto-titlebar-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  evil-mode: t
  evil-local-mode: t
  windmove-mode: t
  +popup-mode: t
  override-global-mode: t
  general-override-mode: t
  apheleia-global-mode: t
  apheleia-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  window-divider-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  size-indication-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t

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bug#61171: 30.0.50; macos build can't find native lisp folder

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 20:42:50 +0800
> From:  Merrick Luo via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> 
> As show in the "Configued using" section, I compiled emacs with
> ns-self-contained disabled and with aot native compilation, but the
> nextstep/Emacs.app is failing to start unless I do
> 
> ln -s /usr/local/lib/emacs/30.0.50/native-lisp nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/
> 
> the error message is
> 
> Error using execdir /Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/:
> emacs: dlopen(/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/../native-lisp/30.0.50-7473cdfd/preloaded/window-0d1b8b93-b6aaebba.eln, 0x0001): tried: '/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/../native-lisp/30.0.50-7473cdfd/preloaded/window-0d1b8b93-b6aaebba.eln' (no such file)
> 
> is there anything I missed with configuration or the `ln` part is required
> to be done manually for it to work? please advise, thanks.

Why did you build with ns-self-contained disabled?  AFAICT from
reading the top-level Makefile.in, this causes Emacs to install files
according to Posix conventions, which breaks on macOS.  What you get
is the Emacs binary in a place unrelated to the directory where the
*.eln files are installed, and Emacs cannot find them.

You could perhaps set ELN_DESTDIR explicitly when you run "Make", as
in

   make ELN_DESTDIR=/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents

Maybe.

bug#61171: 30.0.50; macos build can't find native lisp folder

[Eli Zaretskii]

[Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]

> From: Merrick Luo <merrick@luois.me>
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:18:55 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Why did you build with ns-self-contained disabled?  AFAICT from
> > reading the top-level Makefile.in, this causes Emacs to install files
> > according to Posix conventions, which breaks on macOS. What you get is
> > the Emacs binary in a place unrelated to the directory where the
> > *.eln files are installed, and Emacs cannot find them.
> 
> yes, I want the files to be installed into /usr/local/ so I can use it
> in terminal more easily. AFAIR, the Emacs.app works fine with this
> option without native compilation enabled, I can also copy/move it to
> the Application folder and still works.

Without native-compilation Emacs doesn't need to look for and find
the *.eln files, so it's a small wonder you don't see the problem.

> > You could perhaps set ELN_DESTDIR explicitly when you run "Make", as
> > in
> >
> >    make ELN_DESTDIR=/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents
> >
> > Maybe.
> 
> this looks like an absolute path though, so if I moved the Emacs.app to
> another place, like /Applciations, it will break /usr/local/bin/emacs?

Emacs with native-compilation supports relocatable
installations only if the relation between the directory with the
binary and the directory with the *.eln files is according to the
relation between BIN_DESTDIR and ELN_DESTDIR.  So if you want a
relocatable installation, you will need to play with the values of
those two Make-time variables to suit your needs.  If you use absolute
file names, moving the files will break the installation.

bug#61171: 30.0.50; macos build can't find native lisp folder

[Andrea Corallo]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> [Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]
>
>> From: Merrick Luo <merrick@luois.me>
>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:18:55 +0800
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> > Why did you build with ns-self-contained disabled?  AFAICT from
>> > reading the top-level Makefile.in, this causes Emacs to install files
>> > according to Posix conventions, which breaks on macOS. What you get is
>> > the Emacs binary in a place unrelated to the directory where the
>> > *.eln files are installed, and Emacs cannot find them.
>> 
>> yes, I want the files to be installed into /usr/local/ so I can use it
>> in terminal more easily. AFAIR, the Emacs.app works fine with this
>> option without native compilation enabled, I can also copy/move it to
>> the Application folder and still works.
>
> Without native-compilation Emacs doesn't need to look for and find
> the *.eln files, so it's a small wonder you don't see the problem.
>
>> > You could perhaps set ELN_DESTDIR explicitly when you run "Make", as
>> > in
>> >
>> >    make ELN_DESTDIR=/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents
>> >
>> > Maybe.
>> 
>> this looks like an absolute path though, so if I moved the Emacs.app to
>> another place, like /Applciations, it will break /usr/local/bin/emacs?
>
> Emacs with native-compilation supports relocatable
> installations only if the relation between the directory with the
> binary and the directory with the *.eln files is according to the
> relation between BIN_DESTDIR and ELN_DESTDIR.  So if you want a
> relocatable installation, you will need to play with the values of
> those two Make-time variables to suit your needs.  If you use absolute
> file names, moving the files will break the installation.

Hello all,

should we close this bug or is there something that should be done?

Best Regards

  Andrea

bug#61171: 30.0.50; macos build can't find native lisp folder

[Eli Zaretskii]

tags 61171 notabug
close 61171
thanks

> From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
> Cc: Merrick Luo <merrick@luois.me>,  61171@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 18:15:15 -0400
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > [Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]
> >
> >> From: Merrick Luo <merrick@luois.me>
> >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:18:55 +0800
> >> 
> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Why did you build with ns-self-contained disabled?  AFAICT from
> >> > reading the top-level Makefile.in, this causes Emacs to install files
> >> > according to Posix conventions, which breaks on macOS. What you get is
> >> > the Emacs binary in a place unrelated to the directory where the
> >> > *.eln files are installed, and Emacs cannot find them.
> >> 
> >> yes, I want the files to be installed into /usr/local/ so I can use it
> >> in terminal more easily. AFAIR, the Emacs.app works fine with this
> >> option without native compilation enabled, I can also copy/move it to
> >> the Application folder and still works.
> >
> > Without native-compilation Emacs doesn't need to look for and find
> > the *.eln files, so it's a small wonder you don't see the problem.
> >
> >> > You could perhaps set ELN_DESTDIR explicitly when you run "Make", as
> >> > in
> >> >
> >> >    make ELN_DESTDIR=/Users/merrickluo/projs/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents
> >> >
> >> > Maybe.
> >> 
> >> this looks like an absolute path though, so if I moved the Emacs.app to
> >> another place, like /Applciations, it will break /usr/local/bin/emacs?
> >
> > Emacs with native-compilation supports relocatable
> > installations only if the relation between the directory with the
> > binary and the directory with the *.eln files is according to the
> > relation between BIN_DESTDIR and ELN_DESTDIR.  So if you want a
> > relocatable installation, you will need to play with the values of
> > those two Make-time variables to suit your needs.  If you use absolute
> > file names, moving the files will break the installation.
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> should we close this bug or is there something that should be done?

Closed.