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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	62750@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade'
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 17:40:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy1myje0p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbe0d50b-e137-2183-3109-706dbd306823@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2023 00:28:14 +0300")

>>> I don't think that "update" and "upgrade" have that clear of a semantic
>>> difference in practice to necessitate a renaming.
>> I'd tend to agree.
>
> Here's an argument in favor of renaming:
>
> These commands use the term 'update'. But package-menu-mark-upgrades, which
> has been in package.el for years, uses the term 'upgrade' in its name and
> its docstring ("all upgradable packages", etc). There are a few auxiliary
> functions which also use that term, but this is the public-facing one.
>
> So now we have divergent terminology. Which implies that there is some
> difference between "upgrading" and "updating" in package.el, while there
> is none.

Good point.

It's annoyingly late to rename, but if we rename without compatibility
aliases (which seems to be an option since these are new in Emacs-29),
then I'd be in favor.
     

        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-11 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-10 12:53 bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade' Adam Porter
2023-04-10 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-10 13:25   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-10 14:31     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-11 21:28       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-11 21:40         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-04-12  7:35           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 13:22             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 13:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 13:34                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-15  1:34                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23 23:06                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-24 12:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 17:28                         ` Adam Porter
2023-04-24 18:54                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-24 19:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 19:38                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-01  1:55                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 13:19                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-12 13:44               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 14:36                 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:23         ` Jim Porter
2023-04-27 23:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-28 14:26   ` Philip Kaludercic

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