From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, philipk@posteo.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
62750@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade'
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:54:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c3a1c586-69ed-7129-365f-da7fd26c9b87@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3f8bfff-a468-d0a5-f020-826ff0c5ce2a@alphapapa.net>
On 24/04/2023 20:28, Adam Porter wrote:
> On 4/24/23 07:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
>> Me, I have only one potential issue: since "update" just means "delete
>> the installed version, then install another version", it could be
>> easily made to downgrade, not just to upgrade. So if we ever would
>> like to allow downgrading, the new names will get in the way. But if
>> this is not an issue we should be bothered about, it's fine by me.
>
> IMHO, a command to downgrade ought to be a separate command with a
> different name--not only to reduce confusion, but because downgrading
> packages is an operation that is more likely to require manual user
> intervention, such as recompiling other packages that depend on the
> downgraded package (e.g. if struct or macro definitions change, or
> symbols disappear).
That might also be the case when upgrading a package that some others
depend on (newer version could also have macros deleted or renamed).
Either way, though, we could make it a separate command.
Or even augment the current one: (package-upgrade 'name
"some-older-version") has a similar feel to (forward-char -1), not
exactly unfamiliar to us.
Would "update" be a more proper term to cover both upgrading and
downgrading? I'm not sure about that. Aside from "downgrade", I would
probably say "revert" or "install an older version". E.g. when using
apt-get, the relevant subcommand would be "install".
> It's easy enough to cause that problem when upgrading, and much more
> likely when downgrading, to the extent that it's arguable that a command
> to downgrade shouldn't exist, because users who want to downgrade a
> package should be prepared to deal with the potential fallout.
Or that. We don't keep older versions around in ELPA anyway, so for now
the question is moot.
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-10 12:53 bug#62750: 29.0.50; Commands 'package-update' and 'package-update-all' should be called '*-upgrade' Adam Porter
2023-04-10 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-10 13:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-10 14:31 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-11 21:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-11 21:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 7:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 13:22 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-15 1:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23 23:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-24 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 17:28 ` Adam Porter
2023-04-24 18:54 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-04-24 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 19:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-01 1:55 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-01 13:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-12 13:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 14:36 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:23 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-27 23:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-28 14:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
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