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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why is lexical-binding's global value ignored?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 13:59:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9e/SPB1K/n/r7D1@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r0vc5hj9.fsf@gnu.org>

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On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 02:32:58PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 20:53:30 -0700
> > From: abq@bitrot.link
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > 
> > On 2023-01-28 23:54, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > Wasn't that already explained?  What happens if you say
> > > 
> > >   (setq-default lexical-binding t)
> > > 
> > > and then load a Lisp file that expects dynamic-binding by default?
> > 
> > Then it breaks!
> 
> We want to avoid such a breakage.  It is year 2023 out there, but
> there's still gobs of code that assumes dynamic binding.

Moreover, I still fail to understand why this is useful. Files
with no binding declaration have most probably been writen at
a time where dynamic binding was the only option [1]. So it does
make sense to treat them as if there were a "lexical-binding: f"
declaration in them. Everything else would be breaking the
interface contract. You better not do that (this would be the
same as changing the meaning of `+' for old programs: what
for?)

This means that the variable `lexical-binding' is always locally
bound, so its global binding is meaningless.

Cheers
-- 
t

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-30 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-28  3:01 Why is lexical-binding's global value ignored? abq
2023-01-28  7:10 ` tomas
2023-01-29  9:36   ` Jean Louis
2023-01-31  4:19     ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-31 13:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 16:11 ` abq
2023-01-28 18:44   ` tomas
2023-01-28 22:34   ` abq
2023-01-29  6:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30  3:53       ` abq
2023-01-30 12:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 12:59           ` tomas [this message]
2023-01-30 13:45         ` Po Lu
2023-02-01  2:04     ` abq

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