From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: slang@yellowfrog.io
Cc: "Rudi C" <rudiwillalwaysloveyou@gmail.com>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
"João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
"Dmitry Gutov" <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 11:40:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR06MB45265B1F14697FF8E40636F196B70@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1167660693.73440.1590008178278@office.mailbox.org> (slang@yellowfrog.io's message of "Wed, 20 May 2020 21:56:18 +0100 (BST)")
slang@yellowfrog.io writes:
>> On 20 May 2020 21:14 João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 6:23 PM Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 20.05.2020 19:22, João Távora wrote:
>> > > For me, first class means to having a quirky name for it,
>> > > it's just there.
>> >
>> > A quirky name like xref, eww, winner, eldoc or flymake?
>>
>> But a new user never types or needs to learn those, he just finds
>> a file and all those things are activated. He may learn the names
>> later on.
>>
>> But OK, you're probably right, we do need a prefix/namespace
>> and it might as well be "eglot". Pragmatically, I'd alias M-x eglot
>> to ide-start-lsp or something like that. But I won't make a question
>> of it.
>>
>> João
>
> I've been using emacs a couple of years now (and eglot) and from my experience
> names do not matter that much - it is more to guide the user where to look and
> what to use - e.g. for source code navigation lsp, etags, ctags, gtags,
> dumb-jump (dumb-jump works actually really well in many situations) ... so they
> have a clear path in front of them.
>
> Having an lsp client in emacs (whatever the name is) would make it possible to tell users (can even be on a splash screen) -> to IDE type this.
>
> Simon
Indeed. As a user, I really want to be able to jump to
declaration/implementation/find references/get completion to work etc. I
wouldn't care as slightest how it is implemented as long as it worked
well. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I know all the minutiae details on
how it works in my copy of Emacs since I had to install each and every
pacakge and configure them all together to get that working for me.
Which indeed took quite some time untill I learned what I need, how to
configure it and finally how to use it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-21 9:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-20 0:29 My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors Rudi C
2020-05-20 1:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 11:35 ` Rudi C
2020-05-20 12:18 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 12:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 13:01 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 13:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 13:10 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 13:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 13:32 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 13:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 14:06 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 14:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 14:31 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 14:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 16:22 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 17:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 20:14 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 20:56 ` slang
2020-05-21 9:40 ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2020-05-20 21:21 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-20 21:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 21:41 ` João Távora
2020-05-21 9:42 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-21 15:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-22 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-20 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-20 14:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-20 14:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 14:10 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 14:37 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 16:16 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 17:57 ` andres.ramirez
2020-05-20 18:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 18:16 ` offtopic emacs-and-introspection (was: My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors) andrés ramírez
2020-05-20 15:23 ` My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors Stefan Kangas
2020-05-20 18:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-20 20:11 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 21:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-20 21:31 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-20 14:08 ` João Távora
2020-05-20 14:00 ` Rudi C
2020-05-20 14:04 ` Zach Pearson
2020-05-20 12:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-20 16:38 ` GNU Emacs distribution (was: My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors) Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-05-21 3:45 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-20 20:18 ` My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors Tim Cross
2020-05-21 8:24 ` tomas
2020-05-21 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-24 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-20 8:29 ndame
2020-05-21 9:55 ndame
2020-05-21 11:50 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-22 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-23 1:25 ` chad
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2020-05-24 13:22 ` Arthur Miller
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