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From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation'
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 14:55:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM=F=bBZCk+Hy9+qd8YhOjKwHVvN=E-7wyeu7ybzMUq1-UTGCg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1pN5IQ-0005hh-CN@fencepost.gnu.org>

On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 12:05 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> Not at all.  The point of advice is for _users_ to alter functions
> in Emacs.  But code in Emacs should never do that.
> [...]
> The node Advising Named Functions in the Emacs Lisp Reference says:
> [...]  Especially, Emacs's own source files should not put
>     advice on functions in Emacs.  (There are currently a few exceptions
>     to this convention, but we aim to correct them.)

Are those exceptions considered bugs?
Something in emacs is putting advice on call-interactively.  When I
extended the baseline dump to include essentially all libraries
included with emacs with native-compilation, it caused an infinite
(asynchronous) regress while compiling the trampoline for
call-interactively.  I wasn't aware of this until /tmp filled up.
That could also be cured by ensuring the dump file used for
asynchronous compiling is a version that excludes site-specific
libraries.  But as you noted, it's harder to debug advice than hooks.

Lynn



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-04 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-27 12:57 Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-27 14:19 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-27 23:11 ` Stephen Leake
2023-01-27 23:58   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28  0:32     ` Stephen Leake
2023-01-28  8:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28  8:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 21:42     ` Stephen Leake
2023-01-27 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28  9:17   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 17:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 17:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 17:42         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 17:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 18:00             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 18:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 21:41                 ` Andy Moreton
2023-01-29  6:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 11:46                     ` Andy Moreton
2023-01-28 22:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-29  6:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 14:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-29 15:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30  2:30                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-30 12:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 14:57                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-30 17:07                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 17:18                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-31  4:19                               ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-31 14:26                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-01  5:04                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-04 19:55                                     ` Lynn Winebarger [this message]
2023-02-04 20:08                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-04 22:05                                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-05  7:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-05 16:22                                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 10:15                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-06 10:25                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-06 13:05                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 13:37                                                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 14:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 14:29                                                     ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 15:28                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-07  3:57                                                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 15:26                                               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-02  5:18                           ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-02  7:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 16:17                               ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-06 10:57                                 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-06 14:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-07  3:39                                     ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-07 12:49                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09  8:40                                         ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-09 10:11                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:07                                             ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-10  8:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10  8:37                                             ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-10 16:53                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-10 17:34                                                 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-11  8:11                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-11 10:06                                                     ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-11 10:44                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-12 16:47                                                         ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-12 16:55                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-12 19:58                                                             ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-12 20:09                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 10:36                                                                 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-14 13:51                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 22:39                                                                     ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-16  8:04                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17  8:15                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 10:16                                                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-17 14:17                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 21:48                                                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-19  9:21                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20  9:14                                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:02                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:05                                       ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-10  8:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10 22:13                                           ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-11  9:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-13 22:57                                               ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-14  5:17                                                 ` tomas
2023-02-14 13:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 11:29                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 17:11                                                   ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-16 18:10                                                   ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-17  9:00                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-17 16:42                                                       ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-17 19:18                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 21:13                                                         ` Bug#1021842: " Tatsuya Kinoshita
2023-02-18 21:56                                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-19  4:22                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20  9:03                                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:01                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 15:42                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 16:02                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 20:22                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 16:57                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 20:29                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:48                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 16:07                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 17:24                                                                     ` tomas
2023-02-07 13:56                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-07 15:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-07 15:27                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-09  7:26                                     ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-09  7:52                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10  8:04                                         ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-10  8:46                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10 17:02                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-02  5:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-02  8:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02  8:41     ` tomas
2023-02-02  9:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 16:28     ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-02 17:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:12         ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-04 17:48 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-02-04 18:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 10:21     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 12:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 13:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-13 15:21     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 15:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-13 16:15         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 19:17   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-13 19:34     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 20:43       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-13 21:53         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 23:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-14  8:56             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 11:32             ` Andrea Corallo
     [not found]               ` <166586215062.368699.18398270685158383578.reportbug@convex>
2023-02-19 14:31                 ` Bug#1021842: " Tatsuya Kinoshita
2023-02-20  9:18                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 20:50                 ` Bug#1021842: " Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-20 21:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 22:17                     ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-20 22:02                 ` Bug#1021842: " Tatsuya Kinoshita
2023-02-21 15:40                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14  3:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14  3:31         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-14  8:55           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 13:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 15:09             ` Stefan Monnier

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