From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Milan Glacier <news@milanglacier.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cl-lib warnings
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 00:05:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm53WG-B4j2XpkeVM3_Y5gPO1m48vWpZgbZ4VLNHBtcLmsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221226234853.cj4sskzta46dvpbx@Azure-Swing>
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 11:49 PM Milan Glacier <news@milanglacier.com>
wrote:
>
> >I'm afraid mode options will make this even more
> >complicated. And what's with that defvar?
>
> use-package is really a magic. But nobody uses a blank `(use-package
> foo)`, usually a simple and pracctical use-package call would be
> something like this:
>
> (use-package foo
> :config (setq foo-1 nil)
> :init (setq foo-2 nil)
> :hook ((python-mode emacs-lisp-mode) . foo-mode))
>
> which specifies the code to be evaluated before foo is loaded (:init
> part), the code to be evaluated after foo is loaded (:config part), and
> the hook related to this package, which expands to:
>
My expansion of that same form is larger and harder to read,
with condition-case and variables and stuff. But it would seem
that the fluff overhead is constant, which is good.
So I get your point: with enough practice, it's easy to see the
primitives in use.
> (I personally am not a fan of use-package, I don't think it brings any
> thing new. Often I need to expand it to see if its behavior is expected,
> then why shouldn't I just write plain setq, add-hook stuffs directly?)
>
Exactly.
João
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-15 20:12 bug#60102: Move gv-expander of substring to cl-lib Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-16 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-16 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-04 20:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-04 20:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-16 7:22 ` Juri Linkov
2022-12-20 18:42 ` cl-lib warnings (was: bug#60102: Move gv-expander of substring to cl-lib) Stefan Monnier
2022-12-21 8:37 ` cl-lib warnings Juri Linkov
2022-12-21 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 12:57 ` João Távora
2022-12-21 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 14:04 ` João Távora
2022-12-21 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 14:35 ` João Távora
2022-12-21 14:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-21 14:55 ` João Távora
2022-12-21 14:57 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-21 15:08 ` João Távora
2022-12-26 3:13 ` Milan Glacier
2022-12-26 15:10 ` João Távora
2022-12-26 23:48 ` Milan Glacier
2022-12-27 0:05 ` João Távora [this message]
2022-12-27 3:43 ` Tim Cross
2022-12-27 10:16 ` Lynn Winebarger
2022-12-27 13:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-12-21 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 22:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-22 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22 7:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-22 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-22 22:24 ` Yuan Fu
2022-12-22 23:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-23 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-23 23:42 ` Yuan Fu
2022-12-24 0:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-24 14:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-24 14:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2022-12-24 19:13 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-12-24 0:26 ` João Távora
2022-12-24 10:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-24 11:01 ` João Távora
2022-12-26 0:11 ` cl-loop and plists vs alists Philip Kaludercic
2022-12-26 0:35 ` João Távora
2022-12-26 21:06 ` Bob Rogers
2022-12-24 22:59 ` cl-lib warnings Sean Whitton
2022-12-25 1:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-25 2:39 ` package-initialize was " T.V Raman
2022-12-25 4:11 ` T.V Raman
2022-12-26 0:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-26 2:18 ` T.V Raman
2022-12-25 7:02 ` tomas
2022-12-25 9:55 ` João Távora
2022-12-25 11:33 ` tomas
2022-12-26 4:47 ` Sean Whitton
2022-12-24 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-24 13:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-06 5:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-01-06 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-06 17:58 ` Sean Whitton
2023-01-06 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-06 19:03 ` Sean Whitton
2023-01-06 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-24 22:55 ` Sean Whitton
2022-12-25 7:05 ` tomas
2022-12-25 8:29 ` Juri Linkov
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