From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>,
jporterbugs@gmail.com, dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 18:42:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm51WPxYRtqA4-4oKWgBJSKbzENrosp=_FrqNsgX=fyXX_Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJnXXoj_NsCCHev29mbgSsJpnURRb6Y+WetszXr43fmfuXQUww@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 6:35 PM John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org> wrote:
> My initial thought was that this would be a single, global toggle.
> But I can also imagine more granular choices (stable, rolling or
> unspecified) per package archive and per individual package.
Logical! That global toggle exists now, added very recently.
But, exactly as you say, it should be more granular. And by
default the value of the switch for Eglot should be "yes, install and
upgrade its dependencies like it happened in Emacs 28". Whether that is
because Eglot is listed under a special category or just listed
specifically, I don't think is very important.
I already proposed this (but without the toggle) before the
heavy-handed global toggle that forcibly breaks a part of
the users was introduced.
João
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2023-04-07 22:12 bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot João Távora
2023-04-08 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-08 10:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08 10:48 ` João Távora
2023-04-08 14:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08 15:25 ` João Távora
2023-04-08 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-10 16:01 ` João Távora
2023-04-10 18:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-11 11:02 ` João Távora
2023-04-11 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 12:52 ` João Távora
2023-04-11 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 18:31 ` João Távora
2023-04-11 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 20:08 ` João Távora
2023-04-11 20:25 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 7:58 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 8:51 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 10:38 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 11:00 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 11:15 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 11:35 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 12:01 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 12:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 12:18 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 12:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 12:55 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 13:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 14:11 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 14:14 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 14:20 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 16:13 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 16:16 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 17:14 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 17:43 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 19:39 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 5:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 7:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 8:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 11:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 15:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 17:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 18:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 12:34 ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-14 12:56 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 13:52 ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-14 15:34 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 15:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-14 16:05 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-14 16:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 16:40 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-14 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 18:32 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:03 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:31 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 16:31 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 17:32 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 18:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 18:39 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 19:48 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 18:44 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:34 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:20 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:46 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 20:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 8:35 ` João Távora
2023-04-15 10:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 10:44 ` João Távora
2023-04-15 12:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-15 9:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 10:24 ` João Távora
2023-04-15 10:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:19 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-04-15 12:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-15 13:36 ` João Távora
2023-04-15 16:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 21:16 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-04-16 10:23 ` João Távora
2023-04-16 20:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-16 21:54 ` João Távora
2023-04-17 2:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 1:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 11:44 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 20:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 20:56 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 21:15 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 13:04 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 14:04 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 16:17 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 15:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2023-04-19 16:23 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:27 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:27 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 12:57 ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 14:02 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 15:45 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 17:49 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 18:56 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-18 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 19:36 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 11:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 8:50 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 12:13 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-04-19 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:21 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-04-19 19:33 ` João Távora
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2023-04-19 19:46 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 20:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 20:57 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 21:58 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:29 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:42 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:58 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 22:21 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 22:43 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-20 10:02 ` bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 10:31 ` João Távora
2023-04-20 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 11:53 ` João Távora
2023-04-20 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 13:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 13:56 ` João Távora
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2023-04-20 14:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:40 ` João Távora
2023-04-21 0:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 15:03 ` João Távora
2023-04-20 14:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2023-04-20 14:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 18:08 ` Robert Pluim
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2023-04-20 18:53 ` João Távora
2023-04-24 7:48 ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-24 8:57 ` João Távora
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2023-04-24 11:43 ` João Távora
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2023-04-24 13:12 ` Robert Pluim
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