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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, joaotavora@gmail.com
Subject: bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 09:39:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r0sbyuew.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e4ec101-adc3-0d1b-af3d-cce92f17b874@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 23 Apr 2023 02:46:05 +0300)

> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 02:46:05 +0300
> Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, 62720@debbugs.gnu.org,
>  joaotavora@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
> 
> >>> And I thought I've explained why I didn't see a need for another
> >>> option.
> >>
> >> I also don't see the point of using an option here.
> > 
> > We must not change past behavior unconditionally and by default, not
> > this close to the release.
> 
> We're still allowed bugfixing, I believe.

Not when fixing it might introduce another bug or break someone's
workflow.

> >>>>> and only then
> >>>>> update built-in packages.
> >>>>
> >>>> I asked what plausible scenario you think might be broken by having
> >>>> package-update upgrade builtin package by default.
> >>>
> >>> That's obvious: this is how package-update behaved until now.
> >>
> >> That's not an answer to the question.
> > 
> > It is for me (and I'm quite surprised that it is not for you).
> 
> Not sure why you're surprised, you know my approach toward backward 
> compatibility. Never a fan of enshrining problems in amber.
> 
> But in this case it's also a function that's never been in a released 
> Emacs, so the formal conditions are lacking as well.
> 
> And it's okay to use the time since the code was added as a rough proxy 
> for stability, but when it's pretty clear (just from the comments in 
> this very thread) that most people never noticed or forgot that it's 
> there. So it's obviously not very well tested.

What is obvious to you is not obvious to me.

> Just from reading it code and testing, I see another bug: it removes the 
> updated package from package-selected-packages because it doesn't pass 
> NOSAVE to package-delete. Meaning, 'M-x package-autoremove' at any time 
> later will delete it.

If there are bugs, we need to fix them.

Philip, any comments regarding this particular issue with
package-autoremove after package-update?

> >> Alternatively, we could add an optional argument to package-install
> >> which would mean "install the latest version anyway".
> > 
> > There is already such an option, added as part of fixing this bug.
> 
> Ok, since you insist. See attached.

I don't understand how this patch is supposed to be any progress in
this discussion.  I see no prefix argument handling in package-update
and no change in behavior when package-install-upgrade-built-in is
non-nil.  So why did you think this brings the code closer to what I
suggested?

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-23  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 370+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07 22:12 bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot João Távora
2023-04-08  1:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-08 10:43   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08 10:48     ` João Távora
2023-04-08 14:42       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-08 15:25         ` João Távora
2023-04-08 15:45         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-10 16:01           ` João Távora
2023-04-10 18:13             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-11 11:02               ` João Távora
2023-04-11 11:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 12:52                   ` João Távora
2023-04-11 17:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 18:31                       ` João Távora
2023-04-11 18:52                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 20:08                           ` João Távora
2023-04-11 20:25                             ` João Távora
2023-04-12  5:49                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12  7:58                               ` João Távora
2023-04-12  8:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12  8:51                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-12 10:23                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 10:38                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:01                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 11:00                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 11:15                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:22                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 11:35                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-12 11:47                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 12:01                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-12 12:00                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 12:18                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 12:28                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 12:55                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-12 12:30                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 13:42                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 14:11                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 14:14                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-12 14:17                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12 14:20                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-12 15:18                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 16:13                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-12 16:16                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-12 16:53                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 17:14                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-12 17:22                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 17:43                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-12 19:09                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 19:39                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13  5:30                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13  7:38                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13  8:11                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 11:23                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 15:03                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 15:10                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 15:56                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 17:49                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 18:15                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 18:49                                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 10:54                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 12:34                                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-14 12:56                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-14 13:52                                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-14 15:34                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-14 15:52                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-14 16:05                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:28                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-14 16:34                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 16:40                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:53                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-14 17:49                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 18:32                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-14 18:49                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:03                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:18                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:31                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:12                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 16:31                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-14 16:54                                                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 17:32                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-14 18:27                                                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 18:39                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:33                                                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 19:48                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-14 17:53                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 18:44                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-14 18:51                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:14                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 19:19                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:21                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 19:30                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:34                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:20                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-14 19:28                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 19:46                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-14 20:04                                                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15  8:35                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-15 10:40                                                                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 10:44                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-15 12:34                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-15  9:03                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 10:24                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-15 10:28                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:19                                                                                                                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-04-15 12:33                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-15 13:36                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-15 16:53                                                                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 21:16                                                                                                                       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-04-16 10:23                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-16 20:46                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-16 21:54                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-17  2:30                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17  2:24                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18  1:25                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 11:44                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-18 20:38                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 20:56                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:06                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 21:15                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:20                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 12:05                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 13:04                                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 13:35                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 14:04                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-19 16:02                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 16:17                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-19 15:48                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 16:10                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 16:23                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-19 16:50                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:27                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:00                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:27                                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:48                                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:23                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 17:53                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 12:57                                                                                                                   ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 14:02                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-18 14:47                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 15:45                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-18 16:19                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 17:49                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:19                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 18:56                                                                                                                     ` Jim Porter
2023-04-18 19:21                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 19:36                                                                                                                         ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 11:55                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19  8:50                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-19 12:13                                                                                                                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-04-19 17:03                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:21                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:07                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:14                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 18:32                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:33                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-20  4:26                                                                                                                                       ` tomas
2023-04-19 19:39                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 19:46                                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-19 20:50                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 20:57                                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-19 21:58                                                                                                                                             ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:29                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:42                                                                                                                                                 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:58                                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:06                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 22:21                                                                                                                                               ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:27                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 22:43                                                                                                                                                   ` Jim Porter
2023-04-20 10:02                                                                                                                                               ` bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 10:31                                                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-20 11:49                                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 11:53                                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-20 12:14                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 13:39                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 13:56                                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-20 14:25                                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-20 14:31                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:40                                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-21  0:22                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:49                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 15:03                                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-20 14:51                                                                                                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-20 14:30                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:25                                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 18:08                                                                                                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-20 18:24                                                                                                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-20 18:53                                                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-24  7:48                                                                                                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-24  8:57                                                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-24  9:38                                                                                                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-24 11:43                                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-24 13:01                                                                                                                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-24 13:08                                                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 13:12                                                                                                                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-24 20:36                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-24 22:45                                                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-21  0:50                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-21  6:37                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21 10:19                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-21 11:05                                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-21 23:12                                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22  0:57                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22  8:33                                                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 10:30                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 11:11                                                                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 11:24                                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 11:29                                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 12:01                                                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 12:00                                                                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 12:14                                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 12:24                                                                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 23:46                                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23  6:39                                                                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-04-23 11:58                                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23 13:02                                                                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-23 13:11                                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23 14:24                                                                                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-23 21:53                                                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-24 11:58                                                                                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 23:45                                                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-25  7:47                                                                                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25 12:08                                                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-25 12:12                                                                                                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-25 12:43                                                                                                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25 18:35                                                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-26 23:05                                                                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-27  5:41                                                                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-27  9:00                                                                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-27 10:44                                                                                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-27 23:51                                                                                                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-28  5:19                                                                                                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-04 23:58                                                                                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-05  5:04                                                                                                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-05  5:41                                                                                                                                                                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-05 13:58                                                                                                                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-05 14:05                                                                                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06  1:02                                                                                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23 13:05                                                                                                                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23 13:09                                                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22  0:57                                                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-22 11:38                                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 12:12                                                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-22  8:26                                                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 10:48                                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-22 11:20                                                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                                                                                             ` <f32d7008-ea39-a9d7-8224-2c5b969236b7@gutov.dev>
     [not found]                                                                                                                                               ` <CALDnm53vPnODxpv_=nvOHRjLX-PfhyTS0MFudR0qZ3Pa-Lw-AQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-04-19 23:25                                                                                                                                                 ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20  0:13                                                                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-20  1:13                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20  1:49                                                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-20  2:04                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 19:15                                                                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-20  9:38                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20  9:48                                                                                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-20 11:47                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 12:00                                                                                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-20 12:16                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 12:24                                                                                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-19 17:35                                                                                                                             ` John Yates
2023-04-19 17:42                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:02                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:04                                                                                                                             ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 18:34                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:35                                                                                                                                 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-20  9:49                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:40                                                                                                                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-04-20  6:02                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-29  5:21                                                                                                                                 ` Stability of core packages emacs
2023-04-29  6:26                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-29 21:47                                                                                                                                     ` Mohsen BANAN
2023-04-30  6:21                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-30  9:07                                                                                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-30 13:12                                                                                                                                       ` Corwin Brust
2023-05-07  5:58                                                                                                                                         ` Mohsen BANAN
2023-05-05  4:36                                                                                                                                   ` David Masterson
2023-05-05  4:56                                                                                                                                   ` David Masterson
     [not found]                                                                                                                                   ` <878re3bdj6.fsf@penguin>
2023-05-05  4:59                                                                                                                                     ` David Masterson
2023-04-19 12:55                                                                                                                         ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 13:18                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-19 13:44                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 14:13                                                                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-18 22:10                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19  8:34                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-19 12:47                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:22                                                                                                                         ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 18:37                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:32                                                                                                                             ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:51                                                                                                                             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-20 13:47                                                                                                                               ` history of ELPA packages and dependencies (was: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-20 13:58                                                                                                                               ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 19:25                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 19:40                                                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-20  9:47                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 13:03                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:03                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 14:22                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:42                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 15:30                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 15:49                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 17:26                                                                                                                                         ` Stability of core packages Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-20 18:46                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 21:25                                                                                                                                         ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-21 14:12                                                                                                                                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 12:31                                                                                                                     ` What is :core? (was: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 12:57                                                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-19 13:03                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 13:40                                                                                         ` bug#62720: 29.0.60; Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 16:04                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 17:43                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 17:47                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-14 17:59                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-22 23:37                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-23 13:02                                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-23 20:56                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-25 12:24                                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-01  2:00                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-13 16:59                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-13 15:14                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13 15:59                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-13 16:13                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-13 19:14                                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-14 10:56                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-14 16:40                                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15  8:37                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 10:41                                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 10:56                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 11:37                                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 11:43                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 13:21                                                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 13:51                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 17:14                                                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 17:37                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-15 18:19                                                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-15 18:37                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-16 13:45                                                                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-16 15:12                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-16 10:44                                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-16 14:23                                                                                                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-04-12 20:10                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-13  5:49                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 15:49                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-12 15:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 16:29                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-12 20:50                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-12 15:45                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-11 18:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 20:28                         ` João Távora
2023-04-12  5:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12  9:18                             ` João Távora
2023-04-12  9:53                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 12:37                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-12 13:20                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12 16:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-11 19:44                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-11 20:05                   ` João Távora
2023-04-11 21:36                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-12  7:34                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12  5:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12  7:44                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-12  8:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-12 14:14                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-11 21:14                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-12  9:34                   ` João Távora
2023-04-12 15:38                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-08  7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-08  9:09   ` João Távora
2023-04-08 14:51     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-08 15:23       ` João Távora
2023-04-08 15:31         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-08 18:10           ` João Távora

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