Re: [NonGNU Elpa] New package: electric-french

[Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>]

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Thanks!

I am a native french speaker and I would expect such a feature to replace
the previous space with a non breaking space or insert a non breaking
space. This is the behaviour implemented in Libre Office Writer
AutoCorrection feature, Microsoft Word, etc. People are used to this and
for a good reason: It doesn't interfere with their habit to enter space
before most punctuation.

Also I would be interested in such a feature if it was available out of the
box: I don't have the motivation to remember package name, minor mode
names, etc. to install packages for such small features.

FYI at present time I am pressing "alt gr"+shift+space before punctuation
chars when necessary.

When writing HTML, there're mixed usage of punctuation characters (by CSS,
Javascript and the content language) and I am not convinced that such
libraries help...

Le dim. 4 juin 2023 à 16:57, Ruijie Yu via Emacs development discussions. <
emacs-devel@gnu.org> a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> I am proposing a new package called electric-french [1].  This stemmed
> from a discussion on emacs-humanities [2], where Jean-Christophe
> ("l@tlo") outlined a few common practices on nonbreak spaces in the
> French language.  See near the end of the message for the commentary
> section.
>
> First of all, I want to know if any other French speakers are interested
> in using this package -- in particular, whether this is beneficial in
> general, more than only l@tlo.
>
> Secondly, if people are indeed interested, I hope this can ultimately go
> to GNU elpa, but since I am still trying to get an employer disclaimer
> (without which I am very reluctant to making any FSF open source
> contributions), I don't want to propose its inclusion into elpa.git at
> this very moment, hence this proposal into nongnu.git as a "temporary
> workaround".
>
> Alternatively, we can also pretend it were proposed for elpa.git, and
> postpone the actual inclusion until everything settles on my end -- of
> course, only if enough people are interested in this package.
>
> I welcome any type of comments.  Anything, including the package name,
> can change with a valid reason.  Though fluent in English, I am not a
> native speaker, so there may be occasional errors on wording.  Nor am I
> so much a French speaker, and most information present in the package
> were either provided by l@tlo or obtained via some quick [search
> engine]'ing around, so any correction on that is welcome.  Thanks.
>
> (And I know I need to add the part-of/not-part-of Emacs paragraph to the
> header.  I'll add it when I know which elpa we are looking at.)
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ;;; Commentary:
>
> ;; This library facilitates adhering to various spacing
> ;; requirements of French literature.  It provides a minor mode,
> ;; where when enabled, inserts nonbreak spaces before or after a
> ;; character whenever required.  By default, this includes all
> ;; "two-part" punctuations (such as ?, !, etc.) and all quotation
> ;; punctuations.
>
> ;; There are three customizable options at the moment:
>
> ;; - `electric-french-nonbreak-space': the space character /
> ;;   string to use for the nonbreak space.  Apparently, different
> ;;   locales use differenc space characters.  See details at
> ;;   <msgid:5FB8702E-0499-4231-AD2C-55906C27B60F@traduction-libre.org>
> ;;   on emacs-humanities@gnu.org.
>
> ;; - `electric-french-prepend-space-puncts' and
> ;;   `electric-french-append-space-puncts': which characters
> ;;   should have nonbreak spaces prepended, or appended, to them,
> ;;   respectively.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> [1]: https://git.sr.ht/~ruijieyu/electric-french
> [2]:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-humanities/2023-05/msg00000.html
>
> --
> Best,
>
>
> RY
>
>

-- 
Matthias

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