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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding with-editor to Emacs?
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 12:56:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmn08rnbMbBk0rSkBy1jcCiWMF-E9Gj73y4N+KYWrWg8qA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qfgbg13.fsf@bernoul.li>

Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li> writes:

> Identifying the authors of the broken Emacs installations, contacting
> them and explaining the issue to them, and then waiting for months/years
> until the updates trickle down to users, was not an option.  I need a
> solution now.  And this was such an exhausting experience, I did not
> have the energy to *also* contact everyone who had messed up their Emacs
> package.  And it is such a bad memory (it was the first time I got
> massively attacked for publishing free software), that I am also not
> volunteering to do that work now.

Wow, what a ride.  I admire your patience, is all I can say.

>> Do you mean that emacsclient is installed in a place that just typing
>> "emacsclient RET" at the shell prompt fails to run it?  If so, that's
>> a broken installation, and Emacs shouldn't really try to fix that.
>
> I think this is a very reasonable for Emacs.  In other words, the best
> course of action is to just forget the suggestion that with-editor is
> added to Emacs.  There is no real need and nobody volunteering to do the
> work anyway.

It sounds like with-editor for the most part contains workarounds for
broken Emacs installations?  Is there anything in use-package that does
not belong to that category, and that you therefore think *should*
really be fixed in Emacs?

Perhaps it would be worth focusing on just that part.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-02 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <85msy98sni.fsf@elpa.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1qbslO-0006oK-RA@fencepost.gnu.org>
2023-09-01 14:38   ` Adding with-editor to Emacs? Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-01 16:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-01 17:25       ` Jim Porter
2023-09-01 17:44       ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-01 18:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-01 20:23           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-02  6:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-02 18:12               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-02 18:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-02 21:04                   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-03 17:02                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-09-03 17:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 18:21                       ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-09-03 18:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-02 19:56                 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2023-09-02 21:26                   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-09-02 23:07                     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-03  5:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-02 11:39             ` Michael Albinus
2023-09-02 16:52               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-10-17 10:23             ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-17 17:18               ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-10-17 18:09                 ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-17 19:26                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-10-17 18:24               ` bug#66598: Missing options from emacsclient man page Peter Oliver
2023-10-18  5:16                 ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-21 13:05                   ` Peter Oliver
2023-10-21 13:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21 14:35                     ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-29 11:27                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 12:58                         ` Peter Oliver
2023-12-23  9:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 14:36           ` Adding with-editor to Emacs? Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-03 15:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-03 18:54               ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-03 19:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-04  8:21                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-04 12:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-04 12:44                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-04 13:18                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-09-06  0:59                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-05  0:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-15 21:59                     ` Björn Bidar
2023-09-17 23:03                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-18  8:59                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-20 18:35                           ` Richard Stallman

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