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From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Resources for an old newbie ?
Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 23:23:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1l8880u.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 875y8d6x70.fsf@web.de

Michael Heerdegen wrote:

>> And people are very fluent with those kind of sysadmin
>> Linux and BSD commands these days, it is done in
>> an instant!
>
> For those that a very fluent with these things, ok.

I don't understand, what is this sudden underestimation?
People all over the world are downloading software and
installing it on various Unix platforms, it is part of
computer literacy and happens every day.

> But there are other Emacs users, too.

I don't understand, are they unable to do it?

But by all means, it's optional to those not brave enough to
take that bold step.

>> I'm talking about installing the latest version, not
>> writing endless Elisp if that's what you mean?
>
> Master is broken from time to time.

If so say so, I never had the situation but I suppose it could
happen. But regardless it can hardly be held against supposed
"beginners" compiling Emacs what mistakes Emacs developers may
or may not do ...

> If something breaks, one needs to be able to find out the
> cause (my init file? my os? emacs itself?). People yet
> learning Emacs Lisp can't do that so easily.

Again, it is about Unix (Linux and BSD) commands and system
administration at a basic level, it has nothing to do with
Elisp or any supposedly advanced activities regarding Emacs ...

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-28 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22  0:44 Resources for an old newbie ? Frederick Bartlett
2023-05-22  0:50 ` Eduardo Ochs
2023-05-22  1:30 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-22  1:39   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-22  6:33 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2023-05-23  0:11   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-23  5:31     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-23 20:19       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-25  0:55         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-23 23:09       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-25  1:13         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-26  3:28           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-27  5:41             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-28  1:50               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-28 21:23                 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2023-05-24  4:25       ` tomas
2023-05-25  1:25         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-25  4:01           ` tomas
2023-05-26  1:26             ` David Masterson
2023-05-26  3:36               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-26  4:13                 ` Robby Zambito
2023-05-27  4:09                   ` David Masterson
2023-05-27  5:29                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-29 22:13                       ` David Masterson
2023-05-27  5:48                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-29 22:14                       ` David Masterson
2023-05-27 17:48                     ` Robby Zambito
2023-05-29 22:23                       ` David Masterson
2023-05-28  2:12                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-28 21:26                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-29 22:21                       ` David Masterson
2023-05-29 22:52                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-30  2:18                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-03 21:40                             ` David Masterson
2023-05-30 23:24                           ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-31  3:12                             ` Platon Pronko
2023-05-31  3:20                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-05-31 22:07                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-03 21:45                               ` David Masterson
2023-06-03 22:03                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-03 22:39                                   ` David Masterson
2023-06-03 23:19                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-04  1:00                             ` David Masterson
2023-06-04  1:31                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04  2:15                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-04  5:23                                 ` David Masterson
2023-06-04  2:21                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04 21:05                                 ` David Masterson
2023-06-06 16:45                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04  3:02                               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04 21:01                                 ` David Masterson
2023-06-04  5:25                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04  7:08                                 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2023-06-04 20:35                                   ` David Masterson
2023-06-04  7:26                                 ` David Masterson
2023-06-04  7:37                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 10:45                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04 20:07                                       ` David Masterson
2023-06-04 22:12                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-04 22:36                                           ` David Masterson
2023-06-05 20:34                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-05 20:35                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04 10:39                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-04 20:23                                     ` David Masterson
2023-06-05  0:29                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-05  2:22                                         ` David Masterson
2023-06-05  2:59                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-06  1:19                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-06 16:35                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-11  3:14                                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-11  4:48                                                 ` David Masterson
2023-06-11  6:02                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-11 23:33                                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-11 23:41                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-16  2:22                                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-16  2:27                                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-11  5:54                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-11 23:42                                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-06-11 23:56                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-05 20:41                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-03 21:33                           ` David Masterson
2023-05-26  4:28               ` tomas
2023-05-26 11:34                 ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-26 12:06                   ` tomas
2023-05-26 14:11                     ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-26 21:40               ` Emanuel Berg
2023-06-08  8:39                 ` Emanuel Berg

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