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From: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
To: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: continuation passing in Emacs vs. JUST-THIS-ONE
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 01:50:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wn332ht0.fsf@logand.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <627090382.312345.1678539189382@office.mailbox.org>

On Sat 11 Mar 2023 at 14:53, Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro> wrote:
> While I don't know elisp, I unfortunately had to do JavaScript. Like
> Emacs, JS is single-threaded. While I share the sentiment about JS,
> there are still things to learn from it, e.g. event driven
> programming.

I guess you mean async & await as opposed to callback hell.

I think that the essence of async & await is to teleport a value from
one place to another.  It has nothing to do with asynchronicity.  It
just happens that this is useful with asynchronous code where it is
convenient to teleport a value from under one stack (or thread) of
execution to under the current stack (or thread) of execution.

(await               <- 2) to the current place
 (async
   ...
   (yield 42)))      <- 1) teleport 42
=> 42

async is just a syntactic sugar to lexically provide the
necessary facilities to make this teleportation work.  Thanks to
lexical binding and lisp macros, this is easy work for the lisp
compiler:

(defun await (future)
  (let (z)
    (while (eq 'EAGAIN (setq z (funcall future)))
      (sit-for 0.2))
    z))
    
(defmacro async (&rest body)
  (declare (indent 0))
  (let ((z (gensym))
        (e (gensym)))
    `(let (,e (,z 'EAGAIN))
       (cl-flet ((yield (x) (setq ,z x))
                 (fail (string &rest args) (setq ,e (cons string args))))
         ,@body)
       (lambda () (if ,e (apply #'error ,e) ,z)))))

Doing it this way brings great flexibility in what the three dots in the
sketch above can be: synchronous code in the current thread of
execution, asynchronous process with its filter or sentinel callback,
another thread or maybe a timer loop like in javascript.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-26 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-11 12:53 continuation passing in Emacs vs. JUST-THIS-ONE Thomas Koch
2023-03-12  1:45 ` Jim Porter
2023-03-12  6:33   ` tomas
2023-03-14  6:39   ` Karthik Chikmagalur
2023-03-14 18:58     ` Jim Porter
2023-03-15 17:48       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-03-17  0:17         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-03-17  3:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-03-17  5:37             ` Jim Porter
2023-03-25 18:42             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-03-26 19:35               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-03-28  7:23                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-03-29 19:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-03  0:39                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-04-03  1:44                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-04-03  2:09                     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-03  4:03                       ` Po Lu
2023-04-03  4:51                         ` Jim Porter
2023-04-10 21:47                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-04-11  2:53                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-11 19:59                           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-04-11 20:22                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-11 23:07                               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-04-12  6:13                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-17 20:51                                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-04-18  2:25                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18  5:01                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-04-18 10:35                                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2023-04-18 15:31                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-03-29 18:47               ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-17  3:46                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-17 19:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-18  2:56                     ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-18  3:48                       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-22  2:48                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-18  6:19                     ` Jim Porter
2023-04-18  9:52                       ` Po Lu
2023-04-18 12:38                         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-18 13:14                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-19  0:28                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2023-04-19  2:59                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-19 13:25                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-04-19 13:34                                 ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-19 14:19                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-21  1:33                                     ` Richard Stallman
2023-04-19  1:11                           ` Po Lu
2023-04-17 21:00                   ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-03-14  3:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-03-14  6:28   ` Jim Porter
2023-03-16 21:35 ` miha
2023-03-16 22:14   ` Jim Porter
2023-03-25 21:05 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-03-26 23:50 ` Tomas Hlavaty [this message]

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