all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Upcoming merge of adaptive-wrap
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:03:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk98n3l3.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1bfaafe-5957-43c8-8ec9-d945c8a9e84e@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 26 Jan 2024 04:30:59 +0200")

Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

> If you're talking about getting a feature known to the maximum number
> of users possible (and not just hardcore ones who are with us for
> decades and scrutinize every new release), a lot of those potential
> users either have been using Emacs a while and don't read NEWS for
> every release, or will install their first Emacs of some later version
> than the one that the feature X has been added (and thus will miss all
> older NEWS files).

I have been using Emacs for "a while", and I read NEWS with every new
release with no difficulty whatsoever.  Regardless of the extent of our
users' inclination to read NEWS, Emacs's facilities for searching
through multiple files are more than adequate for locating features
there, and even if not, it is not reasonable to argue that a drastic
difference in detail is nullified by arranging items in a one-line
format.  Compare:

  adaptive-wrap  Smart line-wrapping with wrap-prefix

with:

* Editing Changes in Emacs 30.1

** New minor mode 'visual-wrap-prefix-mode'.

When enabled, continuation lines displayed for a folded long line will
receive a 'wrap-prefix' automatically computed from surrounding context
by the function 'fill-context-prefix', which generally indents
continuation lines as if the line were filled with 'M-q', or similar.

I don't think any of us are capable of arguing with a straight face that
the first example will earn adaptive-wrap more users than will the
second.  Not to mention that other documentation will be installed to
accommodate users who are not upgrading Emacs, which you have not taken
into account at all.

> 1139 one-liner summaries, OTOH, are always searchable with C-s.

And how do you suggest users search for adaptive-wrap, armed with little
information beyond that feature's behavior?  For the terse descriptions
in the package list to be useful, the user must already be aware of the
name of the package being sought or the description its author has
chosen.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26  4:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <878r4eqjh8.fsf.ref@yahoo.com>
2024-01-25  1:39 ` Upcoming merge of adaptive-wrap Po Lu
2024-01-25  4:44   ` Adam Porter
2024-01-25 10:01   ` Stephen Berman
2024-01-25 11:32     ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 12:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 13:15         ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  8:05     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2024-01-26 10:21       ` Po Lu
2024-01-26 11:26       ` Joost Kremers
2024-01-26 12:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 13:47           ` Joost Kremers
2024-01-31 19:18             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-02  4:41               ` Madhu
2024-02-02  7:22                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-25 17:10   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-25 20:01     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-25 20:11       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-26  1:45     ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  2:08       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-26  2:22         ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  2:30           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-26  4:03             ` Po Lu [this message]
2024-01-27  1:44               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-27  3:58                 ` Po Lu
2024-01-27 16:56                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-27 22:59                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28  0:18                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-01-28  9:02                         ` Michael Albinus
2024-01-28  9:36                           ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 13:03                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-29  1:56                               ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 15:32                           ` Drew Adams
2024-01-28  9:34                     ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 13:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-28 14:25                         ` Po Lu
2024-01-28 18:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-29  1:55                             ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  1:54     ` Po Lu
2024-01-26  7:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-26 10:24         ` Po Lu
2024-01-25 20:05   ` Stefan Kangas

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87bk98n3l3.fsf@yahoo.com \
    --to=luangruo@yahoo.com \
    --cc=dmitry@gutov.dev \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=stephen.berman@gmx.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.