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From: sbaugh@catern.com
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 68799@debbugs.gnu.org, Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Subject: bug#68799: 30.0.50; emacs --fg-daemon fails silently if server-start fails
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:50:20 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xywp08p.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r0hz2fcz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:08:28 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
>> Cc: 68799@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 15:28:47 -0500
>> 
>> >> --- a/lisp/startup.el
>> >> +++ b/lisp/startup.el
>> >> @@ -1627,7 +1627,11 @@ command-line
>> >>    (let ((dn (daemonp)))
>> >>      (when dn
>> >>        (when (stringp dn) (setq server-name dn))
>> >> -      (server-start)
>> >> +      (condition-case err
>> >> +          (server-start)
>> >> +        (error
>> >> +         (message "%s" (error-message-string err))
>> >> +         (kill-emacs 1)))
>> >
>> > Thanks, this needs a comment explaining why we need condition-case and
>> > where does error-message-string come from.
>> 
>> Actually, on second thought, we could fail anywhere in startup.el, not
>> just in server-start.  So should we actually have a wrapper around all
>> of normal-top-level which detects an error at startup in a daemon?
>
> I'd prefer to handle each specific problem specially, to make sure the
> error message is self-explanatory.  Also, if the error happens after
> the server has been started, there's no reason to forcibly exit.
>
> So I think we should for now solve this particular issue, and not try
> generalizing too much.

To be clear, right now any error anywhere in command-line causes "emacs
--fg-daemon" and "emacs --bg-daemon" to hang indefinitely, without
printing an error, with no way to ever interact with the Emacs process.
This error can come from any code, so if we have *any* bugs anywhere in
code called from command-line, it will cause Emacs to enter this state.

We can add good error messages for individual classes of error, but we
should also have a catch-all check to make sure that Emacs doesn't enter
this broken state if we (or the user) write code which contains a bug.

I have concrete reasons to want this: I think there's a bug in
command-line in trunk which some of my users using emacs --daemon have
run into.  But I have zero information about what caused the bug,
because Emacs just hangs without printing any error message in this
case.

To allow users to report bugs that are at all useful, we should at least
print the error that occurred, even if we don't kill Emacs.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-10 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-29 16:54 bug#68799: 30.0.50; emacs --fg-daemon fails silently if server-start fails Spencer Baugh
2024-01-29 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 17:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 17:32     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-01-29 17:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 18:13         ` Spencer Baugh
2024-01-29 19:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-29 20:28             ` Spencer Baugh
2024-01-30 12:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 19:50                 ` sbaugh [this message]
2024-02-10 20:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 23:23                     ` sbaugh
2024-02-11  7:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-12 22:10 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-02-13 12:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-13 17:37     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-02-13 17:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-13 18:04         ` Spencer Baugh
2024-02-13 19:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-13 20:02             ` Spencer Baugh
2024-02-13 20:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-13 20:20                 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-02-14 14:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-14 16:11                     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-02-24  9:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-13 13:02   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-13 21:30 ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] ` <875xys127y.fsf@>
2024-02-14 14:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-14 15:10     ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found]     ` <87plwzytcg.fsf@>
2024-02-14 15:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-14 17:40         ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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