bug#69444: 30.0.50; 5 seconds to save file

bug#69444: 30.0.50; 5 seconds to save file

[Deric Bytes]

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Saving a small file in emacs -q seems to take 1  to 5 seconds.

I assume this because the 'Rapid Refresh' app I am using takes 1 to 5
seconds to notice
the file change when I change it with emacs but 0 seconds when changed with
another editor.
.
I have done a recent and fresh install of emacs to see if it fixed it but
had no luck.

# set up rapid refresh app
npx create-expo-app@latest -t tabs@50
cd my-app
npx expo start
w
http://localhost:8082/

emacs -q 'app/(tabs)/index.tsx'
;; added a letter to a welcome string.
M-x save-buffer

Expected result:  the 'Fast Refresh' of expo should instantly update
the web page.

Actual result: a variable 1 to 6 second delay (repeating same process)
before update

Actual result with neovim: page save leads to instant update every time.

I tried disabling these with no effect on the time

 (setq before-save-hook nil)
 (setq after-save-hook nil)
 (setq vc-handled-backends nil)

I profiled save-buffer and it was
'0 0% ...'



In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.37, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-05-13 built on no-control-x1c
Repository revision: 7791907c3852e6ec197352e1c3d3dd8487cc04f5
Repository branch: master
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302000
System Description: Ubuntu 23.10

Configured using:
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GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
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Major mode: Fundamental

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Load-path shadows:
None found.

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Memory information:
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bug#69444: 30.0.50; 5 seconds to save file

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Deric Bytes <dericbytes@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:32:10 +0000
> 
> Saving a small file in emacs -q seems to take 1  to 5 seconds.

I sincerely doubt that, see below.  Especially if the file's contents
is plain ASCII, so doesn't need any encoding when saving it.

> I assume this because the 'Rapid Refresh' app I am using takes 1 to 5 seconds to notice 
> the file change when I change it with emacs but 0 seconds when changed with another editor.

You will need to tell us how does Rapid Refresh detect such changes,
because I don't know that.  I also don't know what do "other editors"
do when you save a modified file.  I do know what Emacs does by
default: it renames the original file to the backup file name (so a
file FOO will be renamed to FOO~), and then writes a _new_ file under
the original-file name with the new contents.  So from the filesystem
POV, what happens is that the original file is renamed to a different
name, and then a new file appears under the name of the original file.
The question is: how would Rapid Refresh detect such changes, and what
would be the time frame for that?

If "other editors" overwrite the original file with new contents, the
filesystem could have a very different view of what happens, and thus
the detection by Rapid Refresh could exhibit different timings.

bug#69444: 30.0.50; 5 seconds to save file

[Eli Zaretskii]

tags 69444 notabug
close 69444
thanks

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> From: Deric Bytes <dericbytes@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:37:16 +0000
> 
> SOLVED: It works instantaneously turning of create-lockfiles 
> 
> (setq create-lockfiles nil)

So you need to investigate why deleting a lock file either slows down
Emacs or slows down the Rapid Refresh's recognition of the fact that
the file was updated.

In any case, this doesn't seem to be a bug in Emacs, so I'm closing
it.