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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: gregory@heytings.org, 59347@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#59347: 29.0.50; `:family` face setting ignored
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 10:09:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83tu262u5l.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvleniu4sd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 07 Dec 2022 19:27:28 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  59347@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2022 19:27:28 -0500
> 
> >> My question was not about this basic relative importance, it was about
> >> something else: when none of the fonts of the given FAMILY fits the font
> >> spec, why do you consider keeping the family to be more important than
> >> keeping the weight?
> > I don't understand your question.  If we agree that there is an order of
> > importance in the attributes of a font spec,
> 
> Why should we agree on that?
> 
> When I specify the `:family` property on the `variable-pitch` face,
> I definitely want it to take precedence over the `:weight` of the
> default face, yes.
> 
> But when I specify the `weight` property of the `bold` face, it's not
> clear at all that the `:family` of the default face should take precedence
> over the `:weight` of the `bold` face.

If we want to distinguish between explicitly requested attributes and
inherited attributes, we need to store this information inside the
font spec.  (We have the :user-spec attribute, but it is used for
slightly different purposes.)

Please also note that explicit requests for attributes can come from a
Lisp program, not from the user.

> FWIW, I've been running with your patch and I like the result.

Which patch is that?  The one proposed in the message to which you are
responding, or one of the earlier ones?

> Maybe the ordering should depend on the "stacking order" of the faces
> and their properties.  I.e. instead of merging `bold+variable-pitch+default` to get
> a set of properties on which we apply a globally-imposed ordering, we
> could keep track of the relative ordering of the properties: `bold` was
> on top, so the `:weight` property comes first, then came
> `variable-pitch` so its `:family` property comes second and the second
> comes afterwards.
> 
> So `bold+variable-pitch+default` could result in a different font than
> `variable-pitch+bold+default` even if the combined properties (i.e. the
> merged face) are identical.

How would you determine the order in the stack?  IOW, which attributes
will be "the first"?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-08  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-18  4:57 bug#59347: 29.0.50; `:family` face setting ignored Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-18 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 14:59   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-18 15:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 15:25       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-18 16:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 17:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 20:00             ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-18 20:12               ` Yuan Fu
2022-11-18 21:09                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19  7:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 19:46           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-18 19:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-18 20:55             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19  7:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 14:55                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19 15:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-19 16:01                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19 16:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 13:57                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 14:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 15:35                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 15:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 16:59                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 17:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 17:43                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 17:58                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 18:11                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 18:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 19:45                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 20:01                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 20:08                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-20 20:45                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-21 12:27                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 18:30                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-20 18:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 18:31                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-20 18:54                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-20 21:49                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-21 12:51                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-21 14:48                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-21 15:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-21 23:34                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22  0:34                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22  3:05                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-22  7:59                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 13:38                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 13:46                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 13:16                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 13:38                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 14:38                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 14:45                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 14:53                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 15:41                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 17:44                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 20:52                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 20:47                                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-23  8:13                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-30 10:03                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-30 14:00                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-30 15:38                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-04 14:21                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-05 23:30                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-06 14:22                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-07 11:00                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
     [not found]                                                                             ` <d99c6016-3b32-1116-9ef1-43fe40a71a4@heytings.org>
2022-12-07 11:02                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-07 23:19                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08  0:27                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-08  1:07                                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08  8:16                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-08 14:59                                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08 15:13                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <e1b79bb2-a3c5-2677-57d8-fb6db43dfd9@heytings.org>
2022-12-08 16:27                                                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08 14:12                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-08 15:33                                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08 17:29                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2022-12-08 17:44                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-08  5:32                                                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2022-12-08  8:09                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-08 14:17                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-08 14:49                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-08 15:24                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-08 15:45                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-08  8:03                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-08 12:53                                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08 14:16                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-08 15:17                                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-08 15:42                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-10 22:51                                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-12  0:57                                                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-12  1:49                                                                                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-12  8:54                                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-12 10:33                                                                                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-12 10:51                                                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-12 11:18                                                                                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-12 11:38                                                                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-12 12:47                                                                                                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-12 15:30                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-12 15:45                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-12 15:07                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-12 16:12                                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-12 17:10                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-12 21:28                                                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-12-13 11:58                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-13  1:16                                                                                               ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-12-13 15:40                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-04 14:23                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22  6:42                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22  8:01                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 13:27                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 12:38                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 12:43                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 14:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 14:39                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-22 14:52                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-22 15:17                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-20 18:16                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-20 19:46                             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-11-19  0:20 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19  0:28   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19  4:37     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19  6:01       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-19 14:17         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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