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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master cc29fab3a6: Redisplay "invisible" frames that are actually visible on modern X
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2022 15:44:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o7rp0xn1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy1qucll0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:04:26 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 09:04:26 -0500
> 
> > +** Emacs will now redisplay frames that are made visible by a compositor.
> > +This means even if `frame-visible-p' returns nil or `icon', the frame
> > +will be redisplayed if it is being displayed to the user by the
> > +compositing manager, which can happenas part of a preview for
> > +iconified windows.
> 
> FWIW, while this sounds about right for `icon`ified frames, for those
> frames that are marked as actually invisible, I think we should try and
> keep them as invisible as possible.

I'm not sure I agree.  I believe this could belong to some new GUI
ideas (all of which are invariably copy-cat'ed from MS-Windows ;-),
whereby you have a means of showing a small-but-still-readable image
of an otherwise invisible frame, e.g., by hovering the mouse above
some desktop icon or widget.  If that is the intent, then this is not
a bug, but a feature of those WMs, and an important/boastable feature
at that.

> Keeping the preview's appearance up-to-date is wasted efforts in
> this respect.

Not in the eyes of those beholders, it isn't.

But I do think this should be an optional feature (we could argue
later about the defaults).  In an Emacs session with a dozen
invisible/iconified frames, updating those frames without the user's
say-so could be a misfeature and a performance hit.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-27 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <167204147913.11300.799159655252309055@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20221226075759.AAF44C00613@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-12-26 14:04   ` master cc29fab3a6: Redisplay "invisible" frames that are actually visible on modern X Stefan Monnier
2022-12-26 16:45     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-12-27 13:44     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-12-27 15:29       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-27 16:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-27 17:14           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-27 17:42         ` [External] : " Drew Adams

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