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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rudi@constantly.at, eric@ericabrahamsen.net,
	cjpeople2013@gmail.com, theo@thornhill.no, mardani29@yahoo.es,
	joaotavora@gmail.com, manuel.uberti@inventati.org,
	juri@linkov.net, salutis@me.com, arstoffel@gmail.com,
	41572@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41572: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Support plain project marked with file .emacs-project
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 16:27:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83mt8dssdn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8b94bd6-62ec-4d2b-487a-7081a3a5ca21@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:22:36 +0200)

> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 15:22:36 +0200
> Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rudi@constantly.at, eric@ericabrahamsen.net,
>  cjpeople2013@gmail.com, theo@thornhill.no, mardani29@yahoo.es,
>  salutis@me.com, joaotavora@gmail.com, manuel.uberti@inventati.org,
>  juri@linkov.net, arstoffel@gmail.com, 41572@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> 
> On 26/11/22 09:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> +(defcustom project-vc-extra-root-markers nil
> >> +  "List of additional \"markers\" to signal project roots.
> >> +
> >> +A marker is either a base file name or a glob pattern for such.
> >> +
> >> +These will be used in addition to regular directory markers such
> >> +as .git, .hg, and so on, dependent on the value of
> >> +`vc-handled-backends'.
> > 
> > "These will be used" how?  This crucial information is sorely missing from
> > this description.  Likewise, how "markers" that are not files are used and
> > are useful?
> 
> Not files, meaning, markers which are globs with wildcards?
> 
> >>                          They are most useful when a VC project
> >> +has subdirectories inside it that need to be considered as
> >> +separate projects, but still use the parent's ignore rules and
> >> +general behaviors.
> > 
> > How are "markers" useful in this scenario?
> 
> As mentioned in e.g. 
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=54228#11, monorepos often 
> contain subdirectories which one might want to handle separately.
> 
> Those subdirectories often come in standard structures, e.g. a frontend 
> subdirectory might contain a file called "package.json", a backend 
> subdirectory might contain "Gemfile" or "build.gradle", or perhaps 
> "autogen.sh", and so on.
> 
> Adding those to the markers list will tag those subdirectories as 
> projects on their own. People can also use the file names special to 
> their particular organization instead of those above.
> 
> >> +It can also be used for projects outside of VC repositories.
> >> +Their behavior will still obey the relevant variables, such as
> >> +`project-vc-ignores' or `project-vc-name'."
> > 
> > And in this one?
> 
> This covers the use cases described in the first messages of this and 
> the merged bug report:
> 
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=41572#5
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=54228#5
> 
> People would add ".project" or ".emacs-project" to 
> project-vc-extra-root-markers and see things work.
> 
> Might have to restart Emacs, though, if they already called project 
> commands in the given directory, because the current project info is cached.
> 
> > IOW, please describe the main ideas of this approach instead of relying on
> > use immediately gleaning that from a patch with incomplete documentation.
> 
> If you have further questions, please ask.

Thanks, but I meant for at least some of the above to be in the doc strings
and/or explained here in plain English.  Readers aren't supposed to search
bug reports for relevant information.  (And for me personally, this means I
won't be able to look up the relevant information before at least another
week or two, which is a pity.)





  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-26 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-28  3:32 bug#41572: 28.0.50; [PATCH] Support plain project marked with file .emacs-project Zhu Zihao
2020-05-28  7:42 ` Philip K.
2020-05-28 11:20   ` Zihao Zhu
2020-05-28 12:24     ` Philip K.
2020-06-03 11:04       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-05-28 11:27   ` Zhu Zihao
2020-05-28 12:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-28 15:46   ` Zihao Zhu
2020-05-28 19:58     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-29  4:34       ` Zihao Zhu
2020-05-29  7:11         ` Philip K.
2020-05-29 13:58         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-02 23:40   ` Juri Linkov
2020-06-05 19:02     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-05 19:22       ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-06-05 23:11         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-06  8:48           ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-06-06 11:15             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-06 11:53               ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-06-06 12:17                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-06 13:37                   ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-07-20 20:55                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-10-01  3:11                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25 23:13                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-26  6:38                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-03 18:06                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05  2:03                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-05  2:08                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-05  6:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05 12:42                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-05 16:32                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-06  7:21                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-06 16:29                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-06 21:16                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-06 21:13                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-07  7:17                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-07 13:41                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-10 16:47                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-11  0:40                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-05 14:39                           ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-05 15:03                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-05 15:21                               ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-05 16:56                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-05 18:19                                   ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-06  0:11                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-06 14:09                                       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-07  2:27                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-07 13:08                                           ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-08  2:12                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-08 16:24                                               ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-11  1:57                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-11 18:05                                                   ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-10-17  2:48                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-17 11:52                                                       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2021-09-26  0:22                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26  1:49                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26  7:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-26 13:22                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 14:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-11-27  1:08                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-27  6:46                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-27 14:10                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-27 14:27                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-27 15:51                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-27 16:43                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-27 21:41                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-28 11:58                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-28 12:30                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-28 13:22                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-28 14:29                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-28 14:49                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-28 15:31                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-28 16:51                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-30  2:26                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-30 13:29                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-30 18:52                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-30 20:32                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-30 20:43                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-01  2:19                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-01  6:02                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-01 15:08                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26  9:52                             ` João Távora
2022-11-26 12:29                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-26 19:23                                 ` João Távora
2022-11-27 16:09                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29  9:46                                     ` João Távora
2022-11-29 18:51                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-29 22:06                                         ` João Távora
2022-11-30  0:10                                           ` Dmitry Gutov

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