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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: wkirschbaum@gmail.com, gregory@heytings.org, casouri@gmail.com,
	62333@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62333: 30.0.50; Issue with tree-sitter syntax tree during certain changes
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 14:08:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83lejf7r2o.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <290987e0-821e-a231-c1c4-b40bb9542ffe@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 29 Mar 2023 00:08:53 +0300)

> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 00:08:53 +0300
> Cc: wkirschbaum@gmail.com, gregory@heytings.org, casouri@gmail.com,
>  62333@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> 
> >> Is that because we don't think the user level narrowing is done purely
> >> for visual effect?
> > 
> > Indeed, it isn't always for visual effect.
> 
> When isn't it? Is there a way to determine that from code?

I'm not sure I understand the question, but if I do, then narrowing to
prevent search functions and commands from finding irrelevant hits is
one example that comes to mind.

> >> judging by regular user requests for make this or that command
> >> ignore user-level narrowing, it seems like "purely visual" should be the
> >> default interpretation.
> > 
> > I think you base your judgment on feedback from users who are not used
> > to take advantage of narrowing in editing.  I think most young people
> > aren't, since this feature is more-or-less unique to Emacs.
> 
> Either narrowing should be used to change lexical/grammatical/etc 
> context, or it should not. Do we have any documentation that says one or 
> the other way? That should affect how Lisp code deals with narrowing -- 
> which interactive functions should widen, and so on.

I was talking about user commands that narrow, so I'm not sure I
understand how documentation could help.  When the user types "C-x n n",
there's nothing Emacs can do except obey.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-29 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-21 14:00 bug#62333: 30.0.50; Issue with tree-sitter syntax tree during certain changes Wilhelm Kirschbaum
2023-03-23  1:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-23  3:03   ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-23  4:20     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-23  7:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-23 21:18         ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-23 21:30           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-23 22:06           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-23 23:59             ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-24  6:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-24  7:34                 ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-25  1:51                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 12:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 13:00                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 13:14                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 13:44                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 14:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 14:18                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 14:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 15:25                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 15:57                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 16:03                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 16:24                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 17:05                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-25 17:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-25 19:31                                               ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-25 23:29                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-26 22:52                                                   ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-27  1:29                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-26  4:28                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-26 22:57                                                   ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-27 13:32                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-27 18:43                                                       ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-25 22:57                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-26  5:04                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-26  9:25                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-26 10:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-26 22:00                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-27  8:24                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-27 13:39                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-27 20:05                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-28 11:30                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-28 11:39                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-28 12:11                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-28 12:25                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-28 12:36                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-27 23:06                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-28 11:32                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-28 21:08                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-29 11:08                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-03-31  1:10                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-31  1:27                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-31  6:19                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31  7:46                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 12:38                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-31 13:03                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 13:26                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-31 12:46                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-31 13:06                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31 18:43                                                                           ` Yuan Fu
2023-04-01  1:53                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-01  5:47                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-01 16:12                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-02 22:08                                                                               ` Yuan Fu
2023-04-03 12:31                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-27 23:20                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-27 13:29                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-27 23:33                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-28 11:38                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-28 21:19                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-29 11:17                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 15:50                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 16:04                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 16:28                                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 16:40                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 17:27                                                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 17:47                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 20:14                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 22:08                                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31  6:15                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31  1:25                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-03-31  6:22                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-31  1:17                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov

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