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From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev <nikolay.kudryavtsev@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 68663@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#68663: Unsaved buffers dialog is unhelpful
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 01:38:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81ca484b-c26b-4798-9a75-4ac5b1c54eab@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnBdgF9ySru2K2L1SYxujWZ8v8Sg_bEmaafjaXRJYOvMw@mail.gmail.com>

That's very unfortunate.

I'll summarize the arguments for changing this dialog for the future, 
because I have a hunch that this would eventually be changed:

 From the point of view of a power user this is bad because power users 
generally have Emacs running for day-weeks-months at a time and they 
generally need to know whether the change they've made to some buffer 
days ago is meaningful or a typo. The new behavior requires them to set 
use-dialog-box nil or remember about the C-x C-c behavior being 
different. All for a basic thing that ideally should not take any mental 
space.

 From the point of view of a new user this is bad because now the user 
is stuck searching for those modified buffers by hand since Emacs have 
not given him any guidance. Quitting and saving is such a basic 
operation(cue two pages of vim jokes) that at this point we should not 
only not expect the user to know about M-x save-some-buffers, but even 
what the buffer modified mode line flag looks like.






  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-27 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-22 20:37 bug#68663: Unsaved buffers dialog is unhelpful Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2024-01-22 23:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-01-27 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-27 14:40   ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2024-01-27 14:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-27 15:21       ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2024-01-27 15:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-27 21:18           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-27 22:38             ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev [this message]
2024-01-27 23:31               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-28 17:21                 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2024-01-28  5:54               ` Eli Zaretskii

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