Why is text marked as ~verbatim~ exported in LaTeX as \texttt{}

Why is text marked as ~verbatim~ exported in LaTeX as \texttt{}

[Michael Broschinsky]

I have a small test document:

 #+TITLE: Title

 This is normal text.

 =This is teletype text.=

 ~This is verbatim text.~

When I choose the LaTeX export option and inspect the LaTeX output, I
see that both the text marked as =code= and the text marked as
~verbatim~ are exported as \texttt{}.

I expected that =code= would be exported as \texttt{}, but I expected
~verbatim~ to be expected with the LaTeX \verb command.

Then when I explored org-export-latex-emphasis-alist, I see that the
documentation indicates that if the string to wrap the fontified text
is \verb, then "Org will automatically select a delimiter character
not in the string", which also leads me to believe that that
~verbatim~ will be exported as \verb.

What simple thing am I missing to export ~verbatim~ text as \verb?

Mike

Re: Why is text marked as ~verbatim~ exported in LaTeX as \texttt{}

[Nick Dokos]

Michael Broschinsky <mikebroschinsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a small test document:
> 
>  #+TITLE: Title
> 
>  This is normal text.
> 
>  =This is teletype text.=
> 
>  ~This is verbatim text.~
> 
> When I choose the LaTeX export option and inspect the LaTeX output, I
> see that both the text marked as =code= and the text marked as
> ~verbatim~ are exported as \texttt{}.
> 
> I expected that =code= would be exported as \texttt{}, but I expected
> ~verbatim~ to be expected with the LaTeX \verb command.
> 
> Then when I explored org-export-latex-emphasis-alist, I see that the
> documentation indicates that if the string to wrap the fontified text
> is \verb, then "Org will automatically select a delimiter character
> not in the string", which also leads me to believe that that
> ~verbatim~ will be exported as \verb.
> 
> What simple thing am I missing to export ~verbatim~ text as \verb?
> 

See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14256/focus=14257 for
an explanation and some references.

Nick

Re: Why is text marked as ~verbatim~ exported in LaTeX as \texttt{}

[Thomas S. Dye]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Michael Broschinsky <mikebroschinsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a small test document:
>>
>> #+TITLE: Title
>>
>> This is normal text.
>>
>> =This is teletype text.=
>>
>> ~This is verbatim text.~
>>
>> When I choose the LaTeX export option and inspect the LaTeX output, I
>> see that both the text marked as =code= and the text marked as
>> ~verbatim~ are exported as \texttt{}.
>>
>> I expected that =code= would be exported as \texttt{}, but I expected
>> ~verbatim~ to be expected with the LaTeX \verb command.
>>
>> Then when I explored org-export-latex-emphasis-alist, I see that the
>> documentation indicates that if the string to wrap the fontified text
>> is \verb, then "Org will automatically select a delimiter character
>> not in the string", which also leads me to believe that that
>> ~verbatim~ will be exported as \verb.
>>
>> What simple thing am I missing to export ~verbatim~ text as \verb?
>>
>
> See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14256/focus=14257 for
> an explanation and some references.
>
> Nick
>

The problem appears to be the docstring of org-export-latex-emphasis- 
alist, which refers to the behavior before Carsten's fix.  Now it  
seems that the second element, \\verb, yields \texttt{} instead of  
\verb.

org-export-latex-emphasis-alist is a variable defined in `org-latex.el'.
Its value is
(("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil)
  ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil)
  ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil)
  ("+" "\\st{%s}" nil)
  ("=" "\\verb" t)
  ("~" "\\verb" t))


Documentation:
Alist of LaTeX expressions to convert emphasis fontifiers.
Each element of the list is a list of three elements.
The first element is the character used as a marker for fontification.
The second element is a formatting string to wrap fontified text with.
If it is "\verb", Org will automatically select a delimiter
character that is not in the string.
The third element decides whether to protect converted text from other
conversions.

Tom

Re: Why is text marked as ~verbatim~ exported in LaTeX as \texttt{}

[Michael Broschinsky]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:
>
>> Michael Broschinsky <mikebroschinsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a small test document:
>>>
>>> #+TITLE: Title
>>>
>>> This is normal text.
>>>
>>> =This is teletype text.=
>>>
>>> ~This is verbatim text.~
>>>
>>> When I choose the LaTeX export option and inspect the LaTeX output, I
>>> see that both the text marked as =code= and the text marked as
>>> ~verbatim~ are exported as \texttt{}.
>>>
>>> I expected that =code= would be exported as \texttt{}, but I expected
>>> ~verbatim~ to be expected with the LaTeX \verb command.
>>>
>>> Then when I explored org-export-latex-emphasis-alist, I see that the
>>> documentation indicates that if the string to wrap the fontified text
>>> is \verb, then "Org will automatically select a delimiter character
>>> not in the string", which also leads me to believe that that
>>> ~verbatim~ will be exported as \verb.
>>>
>>> What simple thing am I missing to export ~verbatim~ text as \verb?
>>>
>>
>> See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14256/focus=14257 for
>> an explanation and some references.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>
> The problem appears to be the docstring of org-export-latex-emphasis-alist,
> which refers to the behavior before Carsten's fix.  Now it seems that the
> second element, \\verb, yields \texttt{} instead of \verb.
>
> org-export-latex-emphasis-alist is a variable defined in `org-latex.el'.
> Its value is
> (("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil)
>  ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil)
>  ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil)
>  ("+" "\\st{%s}" nil)
>  ("=" "\\verb" t)
>  ("~" "\\verb" t))
>
>
> Documentation:
> Alist of LaTeX expressions to convert emphasis fontifiers.
> Each element of the list is a list of three elements.
> The first element is the character used as a marker for fontification.
> The second element is a formatting string to wrap fontified text with.
> If it is "\verb", Org will automatically select a delimiter
> character that is not in the string.
> The third element decides whether to protect converted text from other
> conversions.
>
> Tom
>
>

So, if I understand correctly (and if I read line 1981 in org-latex.el
correctly, from Org 7.4), ~verbatim~ and =code= are exported
identically, using \texttt{}?

I stumbled upon this when I was writing a document with the following
character sequence: !--dar--

When I exported to LaTeX and then processed the file, the
\texttt{!--dar--} wound up collapsing the two hyphens into a single
hyphen (or an en-dash; hard to tell in the tt font).  Of course, that
behavior *doesn't* happen when the string is preceded by the \verb
command in LaTeX.

Do I have other options for marking up verbatim inline content?

Re: Why is text marked as ~verbatim~ exported in LaTeX as \texttt{}

[Thomas S. Dye]

On Jan 29, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Michael Broschinsky wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Broschinsky <mikebroschinsky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a small test document:
>>>>
>>>> #+TITLE: Title
>>>>
>>>> This is normal text.
>>>>
>>>> =This is teletype text.=
>>>>
>>>> ~This is verbatim text.~
>>>>
>>>> When I choose the LaTeX export option and inspect the LaTeX  
>>>> output, I
>>>> see that both the text marked as =code= and the text marked as
>>>> ~verbatim~ are exported as \texttt{}.
>>>>
>>>> I expected that =code= would be exported as \texttt{}, but I  
>>>> expected
>>>> ~verbatim~ to be expected with the LaTeX \verb command.
>>>>
>>>> Then when I explored org-export-latex-emphasis-alist, I see that  
>>>> the
>>>> documentation indicates that if the string to wrap the fontified  
>>>> text
>>>> is \verb, then "Org will automatically select a delimiter character
>>>> not in the string", which also leads me to believe that that
>>>> ~verbatim~ will be exported as \verb.
>>>>
>>>> What simple thing am I missing to export ~verbatim~ text as \verb?
>>>>
>>>
>>> See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14256/focus=14257  
>>> for
>>> an explanation and some references.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>
>> The problem appears to be the docstring of org-export-latex- 
>> emphasis-alist,
>> which refers to the behavior before Carsten's fix.  Now it seems  
>> that the
>> second element, \\verb, yields \texttt{} instead of \verb.
>>
>> org-export-latex-emphasis-alist is a variable defined in `org- 
>> latex.el'.
>> Its value is
>> (("*" "\\textbf{%s}" nil)
>>  ("/" "\\emph{%s}" nil)
>>  ("_" "\\underline{%s}" nil)
>>  ("+" "\\st{%s}" nil)
>>  ("=" "\\verb" t)
>>  ("~" "\\verb" t))
>>
>>
>> Documentation:
>> Alist of LaTeX expressions to convert emphasis fontifiers.
>> Each element of the list is a list of three elements.
>> The first element is the character used as a marker for  
>> fontification.
>> The second element is a formatting string to wrap fontified text  
>> with.
>> If it is "\verb", Org will automatically select a delimiter
>> character that is not in the string.
>> The third element decides whether to protect converted text from  
>> other
>> conversions.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>
> So, if I understand correctly (and if I read line 1981 in org-latex.el
> correctly, from Org 7.4), ~verbatim~ and =code= are exported
> identically, using \texttt{}?
>
> I stumbled upon this when I was writing a document with the following
> character sequence: !--dar--
>
> When I exported to LaTeX and then processed the file, the
> \texttt{!--dar--} wound up collapsing the two hyphens into a single
> hyphen (or an en-dash; hard to tell in the tt font).  Of course, that
> behavior *doesn't* happen when the string is preceded by the \verb
> command in LaTeX.
>
> Do I have other options for marking up verbatim inline content?

Hi Mike,

(setq org-export-latex-use-verb t)

appears to be the key here.  It is not documented as a variable, but  
when I set it to t in the *scratch* buffer and then run your test  
case, I get

This is normal text.

\verb~This is teletype text.~

\verb~This is verbatim text.~

which compiles just fine with LaTeX.

HTH,
Tom