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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	58950@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#58950: [PATCH] * lisp/subr.el (buffer-match-p): Optimise performance
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 23:48:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <268ed8c9-f56e-dc79-8e57-eeaaab98adc1@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34AFCB0F-5F53-4033-BCDF-1B3001285169@acm.org>

On 07/01/2023 14:57, Mattias Engdegård wrote:
> 6 jan. 2023 kl. 22.41 skrev Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>:
> 
>>> (I wish we had (byte-)compiled elisp functions carrying their own source, either as s-exp, string of formatted source text, or source file reference -- that would allow for sensible editing in Customise without performance penalty. But Santa gave me a wool jumper instead, that's nice too.)
>>
>> We kind of have that already, if we just made the type for be 'sexp', or a Lisp form. With all the freedom associated with it, just lower performance compared to a compiled function.
> 
> That's short in two respects: performance, and non-retention of formatting and comments. We could store source refs in:
> 
> - a hash table weakly keyed on the code object
> - some back corner of byte-code objects
> - OClosures

That's still seems like an overkill for font-lock-global-modes. And it's 
hard to draw a line between defcustoms which should have their own 
mini-languages, and those that do not.

Or to look at it the other way -- perhaps the line has been drawn now, 
since we haven't received any further requests for extending the syntax.

> We have a similar problem with regexps, which are only retained and edited in the traditional syntax.
> 
> We are veering off-topic. Sorry about that.
> 
>> I'm on the fence regarding changing it, though, for compatibility and ergonomical reasons (it's easier for the user to avoid typing a dot).
> 
> Is compatibility a serious concern given that buffer-match-p is new in 29?

This close to a release, it most likely is.

Another compatibility goal (though probably not a hard requirement) is 
being able to replace project--buffer-check with the standard code, 
while keeping all existing user customizations in 
project-kill-buffer-conditions and project-ignore-buffer-conditions.

The alternative would be to have a prolonged migration procedure.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-08 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-01 19:11 bug#58950: [PATCH] * lisp/subr.el (buffer-match-p): Optimise performance Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-04 23:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07  1:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-12-31 13:56   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-01-05  0:00     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-05  4:31       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05 10:31         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-01-05 12:55           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-06 11:17             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-01-06 21:41               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-07 12:57                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-01-08 21:48                   ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-01-09  6:24                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05 13:01         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-05  0:02     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-05  6:32       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 12:49         ` Dmitry Gutov

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