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From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>,
	Joseph Turner <joseph@breatheoutbreathe.in>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	~pkal/compat-devel@lists.sr.ht
Subject: Re: compat.el and Emacs unstable master branch features
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 19:11:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12703bce-ede3-c337-1ad1-6b8ce2bf1e38@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bke6s6tc.fsf@posteo.net>

On 9/13/23 12:31, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
> Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de> writes:
> 
>> On 9/12/23 12:02, Philip Kaludercic wrote:
>>> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> ... Providing a public API won't work
>>>>> since Compat is not included in Emacs itself. A design criterion of
>>>>> Compat is also to keep the public API surface as small as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it is the time to consider including the compat.el API into Emacs?
>>>> We are getting a number of :core packages published on ELPA and
>>>> naturally having to solve various compatibility problems.
>>>
>>> I am a bit behind wrt Compat development.  Are we talking about adding
>>> the `compat-call, etc. macros to the core?  So basically just a
>>>
>>>   (defmacro compat-call (&rest args) args)
>>>
>>> that would be overriden by compat's compat-call, as soon as that is
>>> loaded
>>
>> Yes, if the Emacs maintainers agree I think this could be done. Take
>> compat.el, remove the part which requires compat-29, and copy it to
>> lisp/ or lisp/emacs-lisp/. As you said, if Compat (the package) is
>> installed it will be preferred over the core compat.el. The advantage of
>> this move is that core package could require compat directly without
>> passing a noerror argument to require. Furthermore `compat-call' and
>> `compat-function' would be available and wouldn't have to be copied as
>> is currently the case for example in erc-compat.el.
> 
> That sounds good!  How does this look like:

Yes, this is what I meant. I forgot to mention one additional advantage
in my last mail: If the compat.el in core is registered with package.el
as builtin with version 30, the ELPA Compat package wouldn't get pulled
in by external packages which depend on Compat version 29. The core
compat.el version should then be bumped together with the Emacs version.

Daniel



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-13 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-08  8:41 Comparing hash table objects Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-08  8:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-06-08  9:17   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-10 22:45     ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-11  5:52       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-11 16:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-12  9:16           ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 23:55           ` Sam Steingold
2022-06-13 13:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-13 16:18               ` Sam Steingold
2023-05-15  5:56 ` bug#63513: [PATCH] Make persist-defvar work with records and hash tables Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-05-15 11:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-23 20:14     ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-02 23:54       ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-03  6:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-04  0:29           ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-04 11:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-04 15:57               ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-04 17:05                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-04 22:28                   ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-05 21:06                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 11:30                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-08 11:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08 12:06                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-08 12:46                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08 12:51                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-08 16:36                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 17:06                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-08 17:10                             ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-09 10:01                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 10:15                                 ` Daniel Mendler
2023-09-09 11:35                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 11:57                                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-09-09 12:12                                       ` compat.el and Emacs unstable master branch features (was: bug#63513: [PATCH] Make persist-defvar work with records and hash tables) Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-09 12:29                                         ` Daniel Mendler
2023-09-09 16:52                                           ` Joseph Turner
2023-09-11  8:45                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-12 10:02                                             ` compat.el and Emacs unstable master branch features Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 10:27                                               ` Daniel Mendler
2023-09-13 10:31                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-13 17:11                                                   ` Daniel Mendler [this message]
2023-10-15  8:43                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-15 12:09                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-05 15:08                   ` bug#63513: [PATCH] Make persist-defvar work with records and hash tables phillip.lord

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