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From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Project out of sources compilation
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 16:31:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <122ab8a44f7c4eacd480975246d66ef3a1060d38.camel@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86v84y8yaj.fsf@gnu.org>

On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 14:45 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
> > Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:40:59 +0300
> > 
> > 1: Emacs does not fully support it though, because while object
> > files
> > and configs do end up inside `build`, however `*.elc` files are
> > still
> > scattered all over the repo. But I hope you get the idea.
> 
> The *.elc files are considered part of the source tree (they are in
> the release tarball, and are portable, so no need to rebuild them
> when
> changing some configuration options).  

They are generated during compilation and are not commited into git. 
That makes them build artifacts.  The fact they're distributed in
release tarballs does not make it less true.  Distributing them in
tarballs is not strictly necessary, exactly because they can be
generated by anyone.

Having .elc files in the source tree results in problems when a user
created a dir `build-feature1` for one feature branch, and a dir
`build-feature2` for another; and then `build-feature1` somehow ends up
having "feature2".  Which is because it's using build artifacts that
are outside `build-feature1`.

In fact, I myself has experienced some problems due to that while
researching `61960` bug and then later making a separate build dir for
something else.  I don't remember details, but it has been something
with the fact that elc files are outside build dir, and then for some
reason Emacs hasn't been regenerating them or something like that (Idk
exactly what was up with them, I didn't dig into it).

Thus, Emacs certainly does not fully support "out of tree" builds.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-03 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4wwljrdnra3bsloehioa46y24ozxajajmvf2elvskxxq3mhtg2.ref@pyv2z5snot6h>
2024-03-16 13:12 ` Project out of sources compilation Ergus
2024-03-16 16:50   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-03-16 19:00     ` Ergus
2024-03-16 20:56       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-03-17  2:53   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-17  7:22     ` Ergus
2024-03-17  8:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-17 17:33         ` Ergus
2024-03-17 17:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-17 17:58             ` Ergus
2024-03-17 11:36   ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-03-17 17:47     ` Ergus
2024-03-19 18:36       ` Ergus
2024-03-27 16:38         ` [PATCH] " Ergus
2024-03-31  2:41           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-31 21:07             ` Ergus
2024-04-01  7:49               ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2024-04-01 13:52                 ` Ergus
2024-04-01 15:09                   ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2024-04-01 17:18                     ` Ergus
2024-04-02 23:23                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-03 19:47                     ` Ergus
2024-04-06  2:05                     ` Ergus
2024-04-14  1:44                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-16 14:56                         ` Ergus
2024-04-22 17:05                         ` Ergus
2024-04-22 18:48                           ` Ergus
2024-04-22 21:20                             ` Mohsin Kaleem
2024-04-23 15:17                               ` Ergus
2024-04-23 19:26                                 ` Mohsin Kaleem
2024-04-26  0:47                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-02 21:39               ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-02 22:43                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-04-05 21:40                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-03 10:40                 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 11:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 13:31                     ` Konstantin Kharlamov [this message]
2024-04-03 14:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 15:00                         ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 15:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 17:27                             ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 18:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 19:08                                 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 20:12                                   ` Ergus
2024-04-04  5:26                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04  9:59                                       ` Ergus
2024-04-04 11:59                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 12:34                                           ` Ergus
2024-04-04 13:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 14:27                                               ` Ergus
2024-04-04 14:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 18:15                                                   ` Ergus
2024-04-04 18:56                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 20:16                                                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-05  5:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04  5:07                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <87jzlefgi9.fsf@dick>
2024-04-03 18:44                                 ` Konstantin Kharlamov

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