From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Konstantin Kharlamov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Project out of sources compilation Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 16:31:30 +0300 Message-ID: <122ab8a44f7c4eacd480975246d66ef3a1060d38.camel@yandex.ru> References: <4wwljrdnra3bsloehioa46y24ozxajajmvf2elvskxxq3mhtg2.ref@pyv2z5snot6h> <4wwljrdnra3bsloehioa46y24ozxajajmvf2elvskxxq3mhtg2@pyv2z5snot6h> <87ttl5w0mr.fsf@gmail.com> <1fd527fc-9643-49d2-8fae-d7e7fd043fe1@gutov.dev> <21f05c6124d1281dcec22404d788330abe1e55c0.camel@yandex.ru> <86v84y8yaj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33769"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Evolution 3.52.0 Cc: rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 15:33:09 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rs0jl-0008VH-Hx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 15:33:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rs0iX-0003ns-Hq; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 09:31:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rs0iT-0003nW-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 09:31:50 -0400 Original-Received: from forward501c.mail.yandex.net ([2a02:6b8:c03:500:1:45:d181:d501]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rs0iH-0000oo-Q0; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 09:31:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-36.sas.yp-c.yandex.net (mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-36.sas.yp-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c37:629:0:640:2d57:0]) by forward501c.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPS id B55FC60E8C; Wed, 3 Apr 2024 16:31:31 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: by mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-36.sas.yp-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id UVTI7mBUr0U0-XVWdtLog; Wed, 03 Apr 2024 16:31:31 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1712151091; bh=MKeokSQDiUpnlaUVrr69OqNtUXs6OP2VWKJSvDhU9eM=; h=References:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:From:Subject:Message-ID; b=ZoVoZt5ICDslbDGhEtdfc48G51VUJ8eHwjMVDWqwyJT9bZDp8GQL5cySYWb9rxtB3 5jC2QFC0FkpfnQHexhZ5asriDZRUmSnFsT877d6t7hhWLRR/ZVL3/exLAY90E3RqGo HMgEnstFZi7oUy8Kq7/h+g23mPxa1yU9/XxA0fNA= Authentication-Results: mail-nwsmtp-smtp-production-main-36.sas.yp-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru In-Reply-To: <86v84y8yaj.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:6b8:c03:500:1:45:d181:d501; envelope-from=Hi-Angel@yandex.ru; helo=forward501c.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317486 Archived-At: On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 14:45 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Konstantin Kharlamov > > Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:40:59 +0300 > >=20 > > 1: Emacs does not fully support it though, because while object > > files > > and configs do end up inside `build`, however `*.elc` files are > > still > > scattered all over the repo. But I hope you get the idea. >=20 > The *.elc files are considered part of the source tree (they are in > the release tarball, and are portable, so no need to rebuild them > when > changing some configuration options).=C2=A0=C2=A0 They are generated during compilation and are not commited into git.=20 That makes them build artifacts. The fact they're distributed in release tarballs does not make it less true. Distributing them in tarballs is not strictly necessary, exactly because they can be generated by anyone. Having .elc files in the source tree results in problems when a user created a dir `build-feature1` for one feature branch, and a dir `build-feature2` for another; and then `build-feature1` somehow ends up having "feature2". Which is because it's using build artifacts that are outside `build-feature1`. In fact, I myself has experienced some problems due to that while researching `61960` bug and then later making a separate build dir for something else. I don't remember details, but it has been something with the fact that elc files are outside build dir, and then for some reason Emacs hasn't been regenerating them or something like that (Idk exactly what was up with them, I didn't dig into it). Thus, Emacs certainly does not fully support "out of tree" builds.