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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Is there a way to avoid clobbering minibuffer by messages?
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:45:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e246266e9faa38c5aea6@heytings.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834jq23xc3.fsf@gnu.org>


>> Hmmm... why not?
>
> Not enough screen estate, and cannot be enlarged to show more than one 
> screen line.  You cannot base a general-purpose feature such as 
> echo-area messages on the assumption that the message will never need 
> more than one screen line.
>

You may have seen that the mode-line is (on purpose) used if and only if 
the minibuffer is active.  IOW, most messages are still displayed in the 
echo area.

>> It's not perhaps the solution that would suit everyone, but I'd bet 
>> some users will prefer that to the way they are currently displayed. A 
>> third option would indeed be a kind of pop-up buffer.  And there are 
>> probably other options.
>
> Popup buffer and popup frame (perhaps a child frame?) are IMO the only 
> viable alternatives that are worth having in Emacs.
>

A popup frame is not an option for terminal users.  A popup buffer could 
be an option, but if I had to choose between the two, I think I would 
choose the mode-line one, which is IMO less disturbing.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-30 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-30  7:57 Is there a way to avoid clobbering minibuffer by messages? Platon Pronko
2023-03-30  8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30  9:40   ` Platon Pronko
2023-03-30 10:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 15:05       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 16:28         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-03-30 16:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 16:49             ` Drew Adams
2023-03-30 17:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 17:32             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 17:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 18:14                 ` John Yates
2023-03-30 18:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 20:08                     ` John Yates
2023-03-31  6:32                       ` Yuri Khan
2023-03-30 18:16                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 18:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-30 19:37                     ` Sergey Organov
2023-03-30 19:45                     ` Gregory Heytings [this message]
2023-03-30 20:02                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 20:06                         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-30 19:26             ` Jean Louis
2023-03-31 10:40               ` Eric S Fraga
2023-03-30 19:22           ` Jean Louis
2023-03-31  6:24         ` Platon Pronko
2023-03-31  6:58           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31  7:01             ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31  7:10               ` Platon Pronko
2023-03-31  7:17                 ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31  7:45                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 11:04                     ` John Covici
2023-03-31 11:09                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-31 12:46                         ` John Covici
2023-03-30  9:52 ` Gregory Heytings

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