[Q] How do I access a message using message id on mailman?

[Q] How do I access a message using message id on mailman?

[Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Hello,

I know this is somewhat tangential to Emacs, but hopefully someone who
frequents the online ML archives (or knows its internals) has the answer
to this.

I'm writing a function that opens up the archive website for a given
mailing list message.  This (it seems to me, at least) requires that the
archive site is capable of converting the message id to a browsable URL.

However, when I tried to search for a recent message id in this list on
lists.gnu.org, the search failed.  In addition, the URL for any given
mail only says "N-th mail" in "which day", which I don't think can be
reliably concluded from a local copy.  Trying to [search engine] it also
didn't yield helpful information.

Any help appreciated, thanks.

-- 
Best,


RY

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Re: [Q] How do I access a message using message id on mailman?

[andrés ramírez]

Hi. Ruijie.

>>>>> "Ruijie" == Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:


[...]


    Ruijie> Any help appreciated, thanks.

This works on my case:

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https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bmessage-id%3Asdvleierbgp.fsf%40netyu.xyz&submit=Search%21&idxname=help-gnu-emacs
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I have a function that does that. based on wanderlust (MUA)

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(defvar my-gmane-lists '(("\"Emacs development discussions.\" <emacs-devel.gnu.org>" "emacs-devel" )
                         ("Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>" "help-gnu-emacs" )
                         ))

;;; based on Kévin Le Gouguec snippet
(defun my/wl-summary-yank-search-url (list id)
  "Format references from the message-id of a gnu.org list.
Used within wanderlust summary buffer for generating an url based on message-id and list-id.
Copy the generated url to the kill-ring."
  (interactive
   (list
    (let ((default-list
            (wl-summary-list-id)))
      (read-string (format-prompt "List-ID:" default-list)
                   nil nil default-list)
      (let ((box (assoc default-list my-gmane-lists)))
        (if box
            (setq default-list (cadr box)))))
    (let ((default-id (wl-summary-message-id)))
      (read-string (format-prompt "Message-ID:" default-id)
                   nil nil default-id))))
  (let ( (my-url nil))
    (setq my-url (concat
                  ;; Escape some chars to url format for search to work.
                  "https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi"
                  "?query=%2Bmessage-id%3A"
                  (replace-regexp-in-string ">" ""
                                            (replace-regexp-in-string "<" ""
                                                                      (replace-regexp-in-string "@" "%40"
                                                                                                (replace-regexp-in-string "\\+" "%2B" id))))
                  "&submit=Search%21"
                  "&idxname=" list))
    (kill-new my-url)
 ;;;(message "Copied: %s" my-url)
    ))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Best Regards.
ps: It just works on emacs-help cos search on emacs-devel is broken 

Re: [Q] How do I access a message using message id on mailman?

[Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

andrés ramírez <rrandresf@hotmail.com> writes:

> Hi. Ruijie.
>
>>>>>> "Ruijie" == Ruijie Yu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>     Ruijie> Any help appreciated, thanks.
>
> This works on my case:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bmessage-id%3Asdvleierbgp.fsf%40netyu.xyz&submit=Search%21&idxname=help-gnu-emacs
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Thanks Andrés, while it is not quite there (I now get a search result of
at most 1 result), this does get me closer to my goal.  I'll also take a
look at documentation of namazu and see if any hints are there.

> I have a function that does that. based on wanderlust (MUA)
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defvar my-gmane-lists '(("\"Emacs development discussions.\" <emacs-devel.gnu.org>" "emacs-devel" )
>                          ("Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org>" "help-gnu-emacs" )
>                          ))
>
> ;;; based on Kévin Le Gouguec snippet
> (defun my/wl-summary-yank-search-url (list id)
>   "Format references from the message-id of a gnu.org list.
> Used within wanderlust summary buffer for generating an url based on message-id and list-id.
> Copy the generated url to the kill-ring."
>   (interactive
>    (list
>     (let ((default-list
>             (wl-summary-list-id)))
>       (read-string (format-prompt "List-ID:" default-list)
>                    nil nil default-list)
>       (let ((box (assoc default-list my-gmane-lists)))
>         (if box
>             (setq default-list (cadr box)))))
>     (let ((default-id (wl-summary-message-id)))
>       (read-string (format-prompt "Message-ID:" default-id)
>                    nil nil default-id))))
>   (let ( (my-url nil))
>     (setq my-url (concat
>                   ;; Escape some chars to url format for search to work.
>                   "https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi"
>                   "?query=%2Bmessage-id%3A"
>                   (replace-regexp-in-string ">" ""
>                                             (replace-regexp-in-string "<" ""

You can probably combine these two calls above. :)

>                                                                       (replace-regexp-in-string "@" "%40"
>                                                                                                 (replace-regexp-in-string "\\+" "%2B" id))))
>                   "&submit=Search%21"
>                   "&idxname=" list))
>     (kill-new my-url)
>  ;;;(message "Copied: %s" my-url)
>     ))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Best Regards.
> ps: It just works on emacs-help cos search on emacs-devel is broken 

Oh, that might also explain it.  I haven't actually tried it on
emacs-help; both my attempts (once today and once a few days back) were
on emacs-devel.  Any discussions on why searching there is broken and
hasn't been fixed?

-- 
Best,


RY

[Please note that this mail might go to spam due to some
misconfiguration in my mail server -- still investigating.]

Re: [Q] How do I access a message using message id on mailman?

[andrés ramírez]

Hi. Ruijie.

>>>>> "Ruijie" == Ruijie Yu <ruijie@netyu.xyz> writes:

[...]


    Ruijie> Thanks Andrés, while it is not quite there (I now get a search result of at most 1
    Ruijie> result), this does get me closer to my goal.  I'll also take a look at documentation of
    Ruijie> namazu and see if any hints are there.

Cool.


[...]


    Ruijie> You can probably combine these two calls above. :)

Sure. Nowadays I am using something based on the Archived-At attribute. see:
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https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2023-04/msg00215.html
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[...]


    Ruijie> Oh, that might also explain it.  I haven't actually tried it on emacs-help; both my
    Ruijie> attempts (once today and once a few days back) were on emacs-devel.  Any discussions on
    Ruijie> why searching there is broken and hasn't been fixed?

From memory. Once Eli address me to the savannah-hackers (the ones that are
in charge of the servers). So At that time I contacted by email with
'Ian Kelling' I am going to quote what he said on that email at that time:

"Namazu has an odd bug from time to time."

Then Ian did something and It started to work for a few days. But after
it. It has kept broken until now.

Best Regards