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From: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@gmail.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Morally equivalent
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:47:29 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADs++6gz7NNh=oUfhhxnwtF+MFib1i=2KExnf6u_Ebk9fiTxFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h703e445.fsf@web.de>

On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 20:34, Michael Heerdegen
<michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
>
> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
>
> > The problem was about the wording, if it turns out Stefan wrote it, then
> > he is not above anybody else.  The problem is that in some important ways,
> > things are not precise.
>
> Nothing in human language is precise.  For me it was precise enough to
> understand the meaning perfectly.
>
> > And users do not like that.
>
> I liked it.  Most people like it much less when Stefan tries to be more
> precise.
>
> Honestly, the only problem with that wording is that it might make
> people wonder whether it is some sort of technical term, which it is not
> really, so it can potentially confuse people.
>
> Michael.

It is "some sort of technical term":

  "A source of tension between Philosophers of Mathematics and
  Mathematicians is the fact that each group feels ignored by the
  other; daily mathematical practice seems barely affected by the
  questions the Philosophers are considering. In this talk I will
  describe an issue that does have an impact on mathematical practice,
  and a philosophical stance on mathematics that is detectable in the
  work of practising mathematicians.

  "No doubt controversially, I will call this issue `morality', but
  the term is not of my coining: there are mathematicians across the
  world who use the word `morally' to great effect in private, and I
  propose that there should be a public theory of what they mean by
  this. The issue arises because proofs, despite being revered as the
  backbone of mathematical truth, often contribute very little to a
  mathematician's understanding. `Moral' considerations, however,
  contribute a great deal. I will first describe what these `moral'
  considerations might be, and why mathematicians have appropriated
  the word `morality' for this notion. However, not all mathematicians
  are concerned with such notions, and I will give a characterisation
  of `moralist' mathematics and `moralist' mathematicians, and discuss
  the development of `morality' in individuals and in mathematics as a
  whole. Fi- nally, I will propose a theory for standardising or
  universalising a system of mathematical morality, and discuss how
  this might help in the development of good mathematics."

  http://eugeniacheng.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/cheng-morality.pdf

[[]] =/,
  Eduardo Ochs
  http://angg.twu.net/#eev



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-16 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-16  2:45 Morally equivalent John Haman
2022-10-16  2:55 ` Eduardo Ochs
2022-10-16  3:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-16 14:29   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-16 14:34     ` Heime
2022-10-16 14:42     ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-16 15:02       ` Drew Adams
2022-10-16 16:20         ` tomas
2022-10-16 19:27 ` Bob Newell
2022-10-16 19:43   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-16 20:24     ` Bob Newell
2022-10-16 19:58   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-16 23:10     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-16 23:17       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-16 23:32         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-16 23:47           ` Eduardo Ochs [this message]
2022-10-17  1:13             ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-10-18 10:44               ` Dr Rainer Woitok
2022-10-17  0:00           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17  0:10             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-17  0:32               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17  0:53                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-17  1:18                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17  4:52                 ` tomas
2022-10-17  5:27                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-20 14:08                     ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-20 16:24                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-20 18:29                         ` tomas
2022-10-20 19:54                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17  4:49       ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-17  6:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17  7:48           ` tomas
2022-10-17  9:15             ` Thibaut Verron
2022-10-17 23:01               ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-18  1:01               ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-18  1:07                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-18  2:39                 ` Po Lu
2022-10-18  3:50                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-10-18 14:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-18 16:50                     ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-18 23:11                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-20 14:05                       ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-20 17:14                         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 15:42             ` Christopher Dimech
2022-10-17 11:47         ` Alessandro Bertulli
2022-10-23 10:16 ` Will Mengarini
2022-10-24 14:46   ` Marcin Borkowski
2022-10-24 21:06     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-24 21:05   ` Emanuel Berg

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