From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: rcd-box.el for box drawings and tables
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 08:13:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <17db9196-84cc-7f86-e77-431657fc408b@panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2z2akUM7kUPyZ3q@protected.localdomain>
The screen reader is free software and is espeak-ng.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022, Jean Louis wrote:
> * Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> [2022-11-09 18:50]:
> > On the screen reader I use, this message only spoke the text that was in
> > the table. That for screen reader users is especially useless since yes
> > there's a table but what is where in that table? The relationship data
> > gets stripped in this form.
>
> Is the screen reader software in Emacs?
>
> Or you read e-mails by some other software?
>
> Is it free software?
>
> In case that screen reader is software in Emacs, there would be way to
> improve it to avoid reading some characters.
>
> Emacs has those hidden text properties, one can see what it is by
> evaluating (buffer-string) so in my opinion, there is way to save the
> whole Emacs buffer with text properties, and transfer such to other
> person. I know it is not really what we do in practice, but that way
> one could transfer also text properties which say "this char is part
> of table" and would indicate to screen reader running within Emacs
> that such char shall not be read by screen reader.
>
> Then each cell could have it's text property in Emacs buffer. In that
> case the spreadsheet with text properties would then be "readable" by
> screen reader. Condition is that screen reader knows how to read
> tables.
>
> Screenreader could then say something like "Cell A1 with value US
> $87.42". Or it could say "Moved to cell A2" or "Moved to cell B3 from
> A3".
>
> That makes sense to me.
>
> Sadly we do not have software that generally cooperates with each
> other in such way as to provide accessibility to blind.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-10 13:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-04 16:04 Elisp Reference Manual on inserting tables Christopher Dimech
2022-11-04 16:39 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-11-04 17:07 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-11-05 12:57 ` Fraga, Eric
2022-11-06 4:18 ` Heime
2022-11-06 20:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-07 6:23 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-07 16:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-07 16:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-08 15:57 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-07 7:24 ` Heime
2022-11-07 12:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-07 13:53 ` Heime
2022-11-07 7:32 ` Heime
2022-11-07 18:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-07 18:07 ` Heime
2022-11-07 18:10 ` Heime
2022-11-07 21:12 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-08 4:09 ` Heime
2022-11-08 4:12 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-08 16:06 ` Heime
2022-11-08 20:38 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-09 0:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-08 22:49 ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-11-04 20:26 ` Heime
2022-11-04 16:43 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-11-05 19:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-06 6:48 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-06 8:31 ` Heime
2022-11-06 9:48 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-06 10:12 ` Heime
2022-11-06 12:26 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-06 12:54 ` Heime
2022-11-06 13:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-06 14:48 ` Heime
2022-11-06 15:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-07 5:38 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-07 7:05 ` Heime
2022-11-07 7:35 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-07 5:37 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-08 6:39 ` rcd-box.el for box drawings and tables Jean Louis
2022-11-08 7:58 ` Heime
2022-11-08 12:29 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-08 15:29 ` Heime
2022-11-08 20:31 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-08 15:42 ` Jude DaShiell
2022-11-08 20:33 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-09 3:34 ` Jude DaShiell
2022-11-09 4:03 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-09 4:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-10 6:07 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-10 18:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-11 22:28 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-11-08 9:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-08 11:54 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-09 0:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-11-09 15:48 ` Jude DaShiell
2022-11-10 13:02 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-10 13:13 ` Jude DaShiell [this message]
2022-11-10 14:13 ` Jean Louis
2022-11-09 15:49 ` Jude DaShiell
2022-11-09 16:03 ` Emanuel Berg
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