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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:47:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5ll7y5t8s.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8y3ye9rt.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:28:24 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> If possible, I would very much like to see that Emacs /allows/ us
>> to customize its UI for a particular environment.
>
> I think we all agree about it.
>
> The mainstream Emacs will never be like the one you distribute
> because an important consideration for it is that it should behave
> like Emacs on other platforms, as opposed to your distribution which
> places more emphasis on having it behave like other apps on Mac OS
> X.

There is considerable leeway in those goals.  For example, different
file selection dialogs and similar are quite common, and in fact, the
whole widgetry stuff (like customize and co) could be made to make use
of the native widgets where available.

Emacs already tends to blend quite better with its environment than
XEmacs does (which looks like, well, XEmacs everywhere), and this is
not a mistake, in my opinion.

> But it's still a good goal to try and minimize the difference
> between the two.  At least, to the point where your distribution is
> not a full Emacs install but only an add-on.  An important
> consideration here is that the same Emacs install should be able to
> accomodate users who want MacOSX behavior and users who want Emacs
> behavior.

Well, we do have something like customization themes IIRC, but I don't
know their extent and how they are used.  If a whole set of defaults
were to be changed by a single theme (and could be changed back at
will), then an out-of-the-box configuration that was different on
MacOSX would be quite tolerable.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-04 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-03 10:37 Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior David Reitter
2005-04-04 11:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-04 14:02   ` David Reitter
2005-04-04 17:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-04 17:47       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-04 23:27         ` David Reitter
2005-04-05  0:02           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-05 14:58           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 13:03             ` David Reitter
2005-04-06 14:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 14:32                 ` Scrollbar bug on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior) David Reitter
2005-04-06 17:14                   ` Scrollbar bug on OS X Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 22:07                   ` Scrollbar bug on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior) Miles Bader
2005-04-06 22:25                     ` Scrollbar bug on OS X David Kastrup
2005-04-06 22:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-07 18:27                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-07 19:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-07 19:30                             ` David Kastrup
2005-04-07 19:46                               ` Jan D.
2005-04-07 19:59                               ` David Reitter
2005-04-08  2:05                                 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-08 11:31                                   ` David Reitter
2005-04-08 12:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-08 13:12                                   ` David Reitter
2005-04-08 14:08                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-08 15:46                                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-04-09  8:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-09 16:04                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09 16:46                                         ` Miles Bader
2005-04-09 17:02                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09 16:18                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-11 18:22                                       ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-04-07 19:41                           ` Jan D.
2005-04-08 14:32                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 14:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-10  1:54                                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-10  5:53                                   ` Jan D.
2005-04-10 10:58                                     ` Miles Bader
2005-04-11  1:56                                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06 22:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 16:17                 ` Scrollbar size flaky on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior) David Reitter
2005-04-06 17:19                   ` Scrollbar size flaky on OS X Stefan Monnier
2005-04-05 19:07           ` Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior Richard Stallman
2005-04-05 19:25             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-04-06 14:59               ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06 16:20                 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-07 18:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-07 22:24                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-04-08  9:17                       ` Johan Vromans
2005-04-08  9:50                         ` David Reitter
2005-04-09  3:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-05  4:22         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-04 18:25   ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-04-04 21:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-08 10:32 LENNART BORGMAN

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