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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:07:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1DItOD-0006gJ-Aj@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b9c4e2f33d37fed55f640dcafbc8d65@gmail.com> (message from David Reitter on Tue, 5 Apr 2005 00:27:10 +0100)

     From a UI and an OS X perspective, customization buffers should 
    definitely go into proper dialogues with native widgets.

Most cases, perhaps nearly all, would be easily handled with those
native widgets.  But it might be hard to make this support everything
that Emacs customizations actually do.

Meanwhile, we could afford to maintain this for one set of widgets,
such as GTK.  But if the idea were to use the native widget set of
every system, you're talking about a tremendous amount of work.

    Successful OS X software pretty much always uses the native user 
    interface.

The purpose of Emacs is to enhance the GNU operating system of which
it is part, and thus to contribute to the liberation of computer users
from non-free software.

Mac OS is a non-free operating system.  Viewed amorally, as mere
technology, it may be useful; but it is fundamentally unethical.
Our goal is to replace it with free software, not to enhance it.
To produce "successful OS X software" is a distraction from the goal.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-05 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-03 10:37 Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior David Reitter
2005-04-04 11:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-04 14:02   ` David Reitter
2005-04-04 17:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-04 17:47       ` David Kastrup
2005-04-04 23:27         ` David Reitter
2005-04-05  0:02           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-05 14:58           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 13:03             ` David Reitter
2005-04-06 14:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 14:32                 ` Scrollbar bug on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior) David Reitter
2005-04-06 17:14                   ` Scrollbar bug on OS X Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 22:07                   ` Scrollbar bug on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior) Miles Bader
2005-04-06 22:25                     ` Scrollbar bug on OS X David Kastrup
2005-04-06 22:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-07 18:27                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-07 19:26                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-07 19:30                             ` David Kastrup
2005-04-07 19:46                               ` Jan D.
2005-04-07 19:59                               ` David Reitter
2005-04-08  2:05                                 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-08 11:31                                   ` David Reitter
2005-04-08 12:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-08 13:12                                   ` David Reitter
2005-04-08 14:08                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-08 15:46                                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-04-09  8:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-09 16:04                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09 16:46                                         ` Miles Bader
2005-04-09 17:02                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-09 16:18                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-04-11 18:22                                       ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-04-07 19:41                           ` Jan D.
2005-04-08 14:32                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 14:50                               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-10  1:54                                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-10  5:53                                   ` Jan D.
2005-04-10 10:58                                     ` Miles Bader
2005-04-11  1:56                                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06 22:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-06 16:17                 ` Scrollbar size flaky on OS X (was: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior) David Reitter
2005-04-06 17:19                   ` Scrollbar size flaky on OS X Stefan Monnier
2005-04-05 19:07           ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2005-04-05 19:25             ` Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior Lennart Borgman
2005-04-06 14:59               ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-06 16:20                 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-07 18:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-07 22:24                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-04-08  9:17                       ` Johan Vromans
2005-04-08  9:50                         ` David Reitter
2005-04-09  3:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-05  4:22         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-04 18:25   ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-04-04 21:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-08 10:32 LENNART BORGMAN

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