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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tooltips on w32 slow and strange
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:14:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5ekfi3nmn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1D0m93-0001Rq-PW@neutrino.iwi.uni-sb.de> (Ralf Angeli's message of "Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:44:33 +0100")

Ralf Angeli <angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de> writes:

> * Jan D. (2005-02-14) writes:
>>
>> The problem with the font is that Emacs doesn't support anti
>> aliased fonts (yet), but GTK uses them all over, even in tool tips.
>
> The deficiencies you just mentioned pretty much sum up my concerns
> with Emacs tooltips.  I don't care much about positioning, but the
> difference in the font (font family, size, anti-aliasing) and color
> used for tooltips alienates them from the rest of the environment.
>
> Ideally there shouldn't be a need to customize the appearance of
> tooltips.  It would be desirable if Emacs "simply" used tooltips
> provided by the toolkit it was configured for (in case the toolkit
> supports tooltips).  This would, for example, also eliminate the
> need to re-customize their appearance in case one changes the theme
> of a themeable toolkit.
>
> But I guess there are more pressing things to do for the next
> release.

I agree where matters of prettiness are involved.  However, where
usability is concerned, where the tip interferes with the workflow,
there changes should be considered.  In my experience, X11 tooltips
are currently fine in that regard, but the report from Windows users
sounded alarming to me.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-14 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-13  0:21 Tooltips on w32 slow and strange Lennart Borgman
2005-02-13 18:21 ` Stefan Daschek
2005-02-14  8:15 ` Stephan Stahl
2005-02-14  9:58   ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-14 10:13     ` Stephan Stahl
2005-02-14 10:27       ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-14 12:26     ` David Kastrup
2005-02-14 13:07       ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-14 14:41         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-14 15:19           ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-14 18:02             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-14 15:02       ` Miles Bader
2005-02-14 15:47         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-14 15:57           ` Ralf Angeli
2005-02-14 17:16             ` David Kastrup
2005-02-14 17:29               ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-14 17:39               ` Reiner Steib
2005-02-14 18:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-14 17:56               ` Ralf Angeli
2005-02-14 18:55             ` Jan D.
2005-02-14 19:44               ` Ralf Angeli
2005-02-14 19:59                 ` Jan D.
2005-02-14 20:14                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-02-15  8:15                   ` Ralf Angeli
2005-02-16  1:02         ` Oliver Scholz
2005-02-14 18:42       ` Jan D.
2005-02-14 18:50         ` David Kastrup
2005-02-14 19:02           ` Jan D.
2005-02-14 13:54     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-14 15:08       ` Miles Bader
2005-02-14 20:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-02-14 23:48           ` Miles Bader
2005-02-14 23:58             ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-15  0:27               ` David Kastrup
2005-02-15  0:01             ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-15  0:47             ` Kenichi Handa
2005-02-15  6:19               ` Jan D.
2005-02-15 16:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-15  4:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-02-15  8:53               ` Stephan Stahl
2005-02-15 10:02                 ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-15 10:11                   ` Stephan Stahl
2005-02-15 10:31                     ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-15 13:43                     ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-15 14:19                       ` Jason Rumney
2005-02-15 15:31                         ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-15 20:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-08  9:07 Stephan Stahl
2005-03-08 10:40 ` Stephan Stahl
2005-03-08 12:43 ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-08 15:42 ` Lennart Borgman

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