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From: "Stefan Reichör" <xsteve@riic.at>
Subject: Re: Improved help from minibuffer prompts
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:50:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <w4du0zlaiy1.fsf@nanni.riic.uni-linz.ac.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1BDoiS-0007vL-9d@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:02:28 -0400")

Hi Richard!

>     In my mode the user is often asked some questions in the
>     minibuffer. Sometimes the questions need some more
>     explanations. So I decided to put the needed help in the
>     function's docstring.
>
> You didn't say which function you mean, but according to the code
> it looks like the entire doc string of the command that invoked
> the minibuffer is the help string you use.  I don't think
> that will be very natural.

I think it is convenient. Every interactive function has already a
docstring.

When I type M-x grep and get a prompt and I am not sure, what I am
asked here, I can just get the help for the function grep.

> It would be more natural to have a variable which, if non-nil, has
> extra help for the current minibuffer question.  The caller would bind
> that variable.  What do you think of that?

That is also a nice idea. I think we should use that AND we should
have a fallback solution for the docstring.

> Better: the caller binds minibuffer-extra-help to the string
> it should use.  All entry to the minibuffer binds
> minibuffer-current-extra-help to minibuffer-extra-help,
> and binds minibuffer-extra-help to nil.  This way, a recursive
> use of the minibuffer will not mistakenly use a string
> meant for the outer minibuffer level.

Not sure, if I understand that.

Consider the following function:

(defun my-defun (name)
  "Just enter a funny name."
  (interactive "sEnter a name: ")
  (message (concat "The name entered was: " name)))

Now I hit:
M-x my-defun and get the prompt "Enter a name: "
Now I hit f1 (or whatever keybinding we choose) and get the following help:

Help for my-defun:
Just enter a funny name.


Where can I bind minibuffer-extra-help?
I tried the following:

(defun my-defun (name)
  "Just enter a funny name."
  (let ((minibuffer-extra-help "Just enter a funny name."))
    (interactive "sEnter a name: ")
    (message (concat "The name entered was: " name))))

(defun my-defun (name)
  "Just enter a funny name."
  (interactive "sEnter a name: ")
  (let ((minibuffer-extra-help "Just enter a funny name."))
    (message (concat "The name entered was: " name))))

That did not work.

Any ideas?

-- 
  Stefan.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-15  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-13  6:26 Improved help from minibuffer prompts Stefan Reichör
2004-04-13  6:57 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 10:48   ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-14  1:22     ` Miles Bader
2004-04-14  5:35       ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-14  6:49         ` Miles Bader
2004-04-14 10:04           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-14 10:39             ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-15 16:44               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16  6:15                 ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-16 10:04                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16 13:12                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-04-14 22:53           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15  1:23             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16 18:08               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-14  3:43   ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-04-14 18:02   ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-14 18:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15  5:50   ` Stefan Reichör [this message]
2004-04-16 18:07     ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 21:55       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-17 19:47         ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-19  7:51           ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-19 11:50             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-29 23:48               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-30  5:32                 ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-30  9:07                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-01 17:51                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-01 18:33                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-02 19:52                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-02 22:45                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 22:20                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06  1:08                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-06 14:13                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-07  1:11                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-09  2:03                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-07  0:29                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-30 10:08                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 13:39                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-30 15:50                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 22:20                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-30 15:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 21:28                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-30 22:49                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-01  2:17                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-01 20:23                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02  1:52                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04  0:32                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 20:07                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 22:52                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-04-19 17:32             ` Drew Adams
2004-04-20 20:47               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-20 23:13                 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-21  6:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-19 18:20             ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 18:07     ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15 11:42 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16  6:05   ` Stefan Reichör
2004-04-18 21:47   ` Richard Stallman

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