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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:33:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u64qz4m8h.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0E0F66C8-DC13-469A-8725-2896CB60AF65@gmail.com> (message from David Reitter on Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:39:08 +0000)

> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:39:08 +0000
> 
> Menus are not always inside frames. On my machine, they're on top and  
> perfectly accessible when there is no window...

Really? What OS and windows manager is that, and what toolkit was used
to build Emacs?

> I think we already have a few frame-live-p/frame-visible-p checks in  
> menu-bar, they're just not very complete.

Those checks are for completely different situations.  For example, if
there's only one frame, the "Delete Frame" item in the File menu
should be disabled.

In your case, you wrote:

> In a lot of cases, one could do "insert file" or choose stuff from  
> the "search" menu even if there were only iconified or hidden frames.

What is wrong with this?  If the Emacs menu bar is visible even if no
frame is, why is it bad that the user can insert a file?

Also, if one clicks on the menu, on the system such as yours,
shouldn't one of the Emacs frame be automatically raised?

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-11  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-10 15:57 menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible David Reitter
2005-11-10 16:03 ` David Reitter
2005-11-10 21:12   ` David Reitter
2005-11-12  3:38     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-12  7:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 21:21         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-12 22:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-28  0:21         ` David Reitter
2005-11-28  5:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-28 20:23             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 21:00             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-28 22:20               ` David Reitter
2005-11-28 22:46               ` Jason Rumney
2005-11-29 10:32                 ` Reiner Steib
2005-11-29 21:48                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-06  0:54                   ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-06 16:43                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-07  0:45                       ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-07 22:58                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-12  8:23                           ` Jan D.
2005-12-12 21:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-13  7:19                               ` Jan Djärv
2005-12-13 20:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-14 17:03                                   ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-14 19:25                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16  9:04                                       ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-16 11:29                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 12:55                                           ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-16 13:14                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 14:27                                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-16 15:24                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 10:54                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-14 21:25                                     ` Drew Adams
2005-12-15  4:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-13  3:15                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16  9:05                             ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-16 17:40                               ` Jan Djärv
2005-12-17 10:47                                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-20 21:55       ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-23 20:43         ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-24 12:15           ` David Reitter
2005-12-24 20:07             ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-24 22:59               ` David Reitter
2005-12-25 16:54                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-25  2:51             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25  6:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-26  2:19                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-26  5:06                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-25  9:54               ` David Reitter
2005-12-26  2:19                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 16:58               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <87x6v29lvv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2005-12-26  2:20                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-26 16:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-26 21:56                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-27 19:01                       ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-27 19:55                         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-24 16:32           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24 20:12             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-10 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-10 19:39   ` David Reitter
2005-11-11  8:33     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2005-11-12  3:38       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-28 20:23 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 22:17   ` David Reitter
2005-11-28 22:44     ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29  0:08       ` David Reitter
2005-11-29  9:03         ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29  9:02       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29  3:10   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-29  9:01     ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29 21:47       ` Richard M. Stallman

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