From: Karl Eichwalder <keichwa@gmx.net>
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
xemacs-design@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: INFO on add-ons
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 04:17:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <shfzwpkwnq.fsf@tux.gnu.franken.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ofberzeo.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> ("Stephen J. Turnbull"'s message of "Wed, 04 Sep 2002 16:23:43 +0900")
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
> Miles> Why? SGML and XML are quite unreadable compared to
> Miles> texinfo.
This depends on the editor or viewer you are using. I'm told the new
GNOME help system is designed to work with raw SGML (XML) files.
> In a buzzword, Document Object Model. I don't read texinfo, I read
> Info. And I don't want to write or edit texinfo, I want to move
> hierarchical objects around (I'm mostly a manager, not a programmer;
> ie, with docs, I edit and compile, not write).
That's a good point.
Often, Texinfo commands are terse and thus obscure (I always have to
lookup how the reference commands are considered to work). Don't take
me wrong---for some of my projects I prefer Texinfo, but in general I
hesitate to recommend the format to other writers.
Note, SGML offers features designed for readability: often it's possible
to omit end "tags" or minimize "tags":
<em>foo</em> == <em/foo/
Not too mention the shortref/usemap feature which enables you to define
soemthing like:
<p> == "\n\n"
</row> == "|" or "\n"
And thus it's possible to write terse (and obsure) tables; in general
this feature is considerd harmful ;)
[I still believe HTML 2 is readable...]
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[not found] <3D728E82.8000808@cox.net>
2002-09-01 22:16 ` INFO on add-ons Alex Schroeder
2002-09-02 23:49 ` David A. Cobb
[not found] ` <3D73F919.5010706@cox.net>
2002-09-03 22:56 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-04 0:48 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-04 1:39 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 4:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-04 5:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-04 5:14 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-04 13:34 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-05 4:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-05 12:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2002-09-05 14:52 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 22:40 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-05 2:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 7:44 ` Pavel Janík
2002-09-04 4:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-04 12:13 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 4:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-02 1:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-02 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02 23:59 ` David A. Cobb
[not found] ` <87ptvxxkoj.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-09-02 1:36 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <buok7m5jhpm.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-09-02 4:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
[not found] ` <87fzwtxad9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2002-09-02 5:04 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <buoelcdj82q.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp>
2002-09-02 6:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-02 23:47 ` David A. Cobb
[not found] ` <3D73F89D.2070106@cox.net>
2002-09-03 4:16 ` "Extreme Documentation" [was: INFO on add-ons] Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-03 15:49 ` David A. Cobb
2002-09-03 19:05 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-09-04 3:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-04 5:58 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-09-03 13:26 ` INFO on add-ons Richard Stallman
2002-09-03 15:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-03 16:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-03 17:33 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-09-03 17:58 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-03 20:54 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-03 20:54 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-02 23:40 ` David A. Cobb
[not found] ` <3D73F6D1.7010002@cox.net>
2002-09-03 4:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-03 15:39 ` David A. Cobb
2002-09-03 16:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-03 22:23 ` David A. Cobb
2002-09-04 1:18 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 3:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-04 3:46 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-04 7:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-05 2:17 ` Karl Eichwalder [this message]
2002-09-04 14:38 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 17:42 ` Ville Skyttä
2002-09-04 22:14 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 2:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-05 13:37 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-06 2:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-06 12:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-06 13:30 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-06 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 13:54 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 20:16 ` Ville Skyttä
2002-09-04 15:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-04 17:12 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-04 18:22 ` Ville Skyttä
2002-09-05 1:48 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-05 2:32 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-09-05 4:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-05 6:00 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-09-05 13:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 4:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-05 4:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2002-09-05 18:02 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06 1:19 ` Miles Bader
2002-09-06 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 4:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-04 12:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-05 2:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02 23:22 ` David A. Cobb
2002-09-01 22:02 David A. Cobb
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