From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: utf-8 cjk translation bug?
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 13:44:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzq65j9nn4j.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200309301259.VAA01304@etlken.m17n.org
Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:
> So, #xFF?? are excluded from ucs-unicode-to-mule-cjk, thus
> they are not translated to japanese-jisx0208 on decoding.
> If you have a ISO10646-1 font that contains full width
> glyphs for those characters, you can see correct glyphs.
Or you can display them with a jisx font, for instance.
> I think the reason why they are excluded from the
> translation is that they are representable by the charset
> mule-unicode-e000-ffff, thus there's no need of translation.
That was part of the reason for it -- the hash-based translation code
is only relevant because we more-or-less used up the code space for
the BMP. I also chose the boundaries to avoid breaking the region
between the mule-unicode and CJK charsets.
> It seems to be a reasonable decision, but considering that
> most users don't have an ISO10646-1 font containing those
> glyphs,
I thought they typically did if they had 10646 fonts at all. Is the
problem that in recent XFree86, for instance, the double-width
characters are in different fonts which have `adstyl' `ja' or `ko'?
As far as I remember, the fontset code doesn't deal with that yet.
(So many special cases, sigh.)
> and that those characters can also be regarded as
> CJK components (only CJK users uses them), I think we had
> better not exclude them from the translation.
I'm not really convinced, but I don't feel strongly about it. (If the
extra charsets hadn't been added before mule-unicode, we'd just have
covered the BMP with more mule-unicode ones.)
> So, I suggest changing the above line (and similar lines in
> the other subst-XXX.el) to:
>
> (if (>= unicode #x2e80)
> (puthash unicode char ucs-unicode-to-mule-cjk))
>
> and modify ccl-decode-mule-utf-8 to check translation also
> for those characters.
>
> Dave, what do you think? Does such a change leads to any
> problem?
As far as I remember, it includes too much, and you end up displaying
some characters double width that probably shouldn't be, but I don't
remember which. How about including the ranges of the double-width
Western characters and the high CJK stuff explicitly? I guess it
doesn't expand the tables greatly.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-01 12:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-30 8:30 utf-8 cjk translation bug? Miles Bader
2003-09-30 9:50 ` Jason Rumney
2003-09-30 10:05 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-30 12:59 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-01 12:44 ` Dave Love [this message]
2003-10-02 1:08 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-03 16:04 ` Dave Love
2003-10-03 16:34 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-06 2:29 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-06 20:00 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-06 20:53 ` Jason Rumney
2003-10-06 23:18 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-07 9:57 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-07 11:41 ` Dave Love
2003-10-07 11:40 ` Dave Love
2003-10-06 23:53 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-10-10 16:56 ` Dave Love
2003-10-13 23:55 ` Kenichi Handa
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