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* [Richard Stallman] [squash@math.ufl.edu: Custom erases comment when default value restored.]
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@ 2004-01-23 11:05 ` Per Abrahamsen
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From: Per Abrahamsen @ 2004-01-23 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: rms

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I believe there ought to be a non-destructive "see default value" such
as the submitter suggest.  I have needed that myeself several times.
But I don't have time to design or implement such a feature.  Maybe
someone on emacs-devel feel like it.

The other suggestion suggestion, having a seperate "erase comment"
operation, I do not think would pay itself.  The utility is less than
the added complexity in the user interface.


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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>
Subject: [squash@math.ufl.edu: Custom erases comment when default value restored.]
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:21:37 -0500
Message-ID: <E1AhEvp-0004U5-41@fencepost.gnu.org>

I am not sure if any change should really be made here, and his
solution seems sort of clunky, but could you please think about it?

Perhaps "erase" should leave comments alone, and the way to get
rid of a comment should be by deleting the text of it.

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From: squash@math.ufl.edu (Jonathan LF King)
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Subject: Custom erases comment when default value restored.
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 /-------------------------------------------------------------\
Dear Emacs
  
  Suppose I have customized a variable.  The STATE button gives me
the option to Erase the customization.

Unfortunately, this ALSO erases the comment that I just wrote,
explaining (to me) why I don't want to touch this variable and want
its default value.  

  So perhaps this isn't a bug report, but rather a feature request.
Could you put-in *two* erasures under the STATE button?  Maybe

	Erase customization value
	Erase customization value and comment

I suppose one also might want just

	Erase customization comment

NOTE: Sometimes I don't actually want to erase the customization;
I just want to know what the default value is.  Within Custom, is
there a fast way to see the dft value WITHOUT erasing the current
value?
	Sincerely,   -Prof.  Jonathan King
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