* /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs
@ 2013-11-22 0:26 Vitalie Spinu
2013-11-22 2:29 ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-11-22 3:03 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vitalie Spinu @ 2013-11-22 0:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Hi,
On Ubuntu the directories of /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp are not
added to load-path as stated in the documentation:
If `EMACSLOADPATH' is not set (which is usually the case), Emacs
initializes `load-path' with the following two directories:
"/usr/local/share/emacs/VERSION/site-lisp"
and
"/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp"
[...]
Next, Emacs "expands" the initial list of directories in `load-path'
by adding the subdirectories of those directories. Both immediate
subdirectories and subdirectories multiple levels down are added. But
it excludes subdirectories whose names do not start with a letter or
digit, and subdirectories named `RCS' or `CVS', and subdirectories
containing a file named `.nosearch'.
I see the same thing on emacs23, emacs24 and emacs-snapshot on Kubuntu
13.04.
The path /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp is expanded. Does this mean that
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp should be used for the installation of add-on
packages? If so, then the info page should be updated.
Thanks,
Vitalie
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* Re: /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs
2013-11-22 0:26 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs Vitalie Spinu
@ 2013-11-22 2:29 ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-11-22 3:04 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-22 3:03 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vitalie Spinu @ 2013-11-22 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
>>> Vitalie Spinu on Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:26:22 -0800 wrote:
[...]
> The path /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp is expanded.
Actually this is not true either. /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp doesn't
even appear in emacs-snapshot -Q, but appears in emacs24 -Q.
I am really confused now. Where do I put my package on "make install" so
that all emacses can see it?
Thanks,
Vitalie
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* Re: /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs
2013-11-22 0:26 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs Vitalie Spinu
2013-11-22 2:29 ` Vitalie Spinu
@ 2013-11-22 3:03 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-22 3:35 ` Vitalie Spinu
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-11-22 3:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vitalie Spinu; +Cc: emacs-devel
Vitalie Spinu wrote:
> If `EMACSLOADPATH' is not set (which is usually the case), Emacs
> initializes `load-path' with the following two directories:
>
> "/usr/local/share/emacs/VERSION/site-lisp"
This is an example. It should be understood that you replace /usr/local
with the installation prefix appropriate for your emacs binary.
(See the latest version of that section in the manual.)
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* Re: /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs
2013-11-22 2:29 ` Vitalie Spinu
@ 2013-11-22 3:04 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-11-22 3:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vitalie Spinu; +Cc: emacs-devel
Vitalie Spinu wrote:
> Actually this is not true either. /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp doesn't
> even appear in emacs-snapshot -Q, but appears in emacs24 -Q.
emacs -Q implies --no-site-lisp (may not work correctly in older Emacs
versions, ie site-lisp dirs may still be present.)
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* Re: /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs
2013-11-22 3:03 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2013-11-22 3:35 ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-11-22 4:02 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vitalie Spinu @ 2013-11-22 3:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: emacs-devel
>>> Glenn Morris on Thu, 21 Nov 2013 22:03:01 -0500 wrote:
GM> Vitalie Spinu wrote:
>> If `EMACSLOADPATH' is not set (which is usually the case), Emacs
>> initializes `load-path' with the following two directories:
>>
>> "/usr/local/share/emacs/VERSION/site-lisp"
GM> This is an example. It should be understood that you replace /usr/local
GM> with the installation prefix appropriate for your emacs binary.
GM> (See the latest version of that section in the manual.)
My question was about the second path "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp"
which is "for locally installed packages meant for use with all
installed Emacs versions."
Let me elaborate on my question. I want to provide users with an easy
"make install" what would put my package into a dirrectory where *all*
version of emacs present on the machine can see.
The manual says that directory is "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp"
which is not true because sub directories of that directory are not
expanded. Nor the subdirectories of "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp" are
expanded.
Vitalie
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* Re: /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp is not expanded on ubuntu installs
2013-11-22 3:35 ` Vitalie Spinu
@ 2013-11-22 4:02 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-11-22 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vitalie Spinu; +Cc: emacs-devel
Vitalie Spinu wrote:
> The manual says that directory is "/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp"
> which is not true because sub directories of that directory are not
> expanded. Nor the subdirectories of "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp" are
> expanded.
I re-encourage you to read the latest version of the manual, which
explains that it is the presence of a subdirs.el file that causes
subdirectories to be added.
That file should be created during installation, but Debian (from which
Ubuntu inherits) appears to make it more complicated, prefering to have
/usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp with subdirs.el and
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp without (AFAICS). You'd have to take that up
with them.
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