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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: schwab@suse.de, raeburn@raeburn.org,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:28:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ek4kmszu.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EkpZS-0005Mj-VV@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:14:26 -0500")

"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     I don't see why those things need to all be fixed before we start
>     the pretest.
>
> Because we aim to make a release with all known bugs fixed.

How can we do that without some kind of bug tracking system?
And who decides what is a "bug" and what is a "missing feature" or
"enhancement request".

May I suggest that you (RMS) add _all_ bugs that you want to be fixed
before the release to FOR-RELEASE, and then change the above to:

"Because we aim to make a release with all the bugs listed in
FOR-RELEASE fixed."


Or even better, we should make a file etc/KNOWN_BUGS which we can keep
up-to-date with known, unresolved bugs.

Then we can _at any time_ decide that the bugs listed in KNOWN_BUGS
are not severe enough to justify delaying the release.

And we should distribute KNOWN_BUGS with the release, so users can
look in that file to see if we already know about a bug (M-x
report-emacs-bug could point users to that file).


> It makes no sense to postpone debugging the bugs we know about
> in order to discover more bugs.

Who's talking about postponing debugging of known bugs?

So I disagree!  Some bugs are more severe than others, and one of the
most severe has yet to be resolved -- the more people who test
the software, the better the chance of narrowing in on that bug.

So let's start the pretest NOW!

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-10 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-05 17:32 bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object Ken Raeburn
2005-12-06  7:50 ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-06 11:44   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-06 15:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-06 15:52       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-06 16:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-06 16:30           ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-07 20:12             ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-08  4:54               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-08  8:59                 ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-09  1:41                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09  4:36                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-09  5:06                       ` Henrik Enberg
2005-12-09  5:16                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-09  9:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-10  4:14                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09 21:14                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09 21:14                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09 21:54                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-10  9:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-11  5:02                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-11 14:43                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-11 22:57                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-12  5:11                                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13  3:14                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-11 22:57                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-12  5:18                                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13  3:14                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-13  3:53                                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13 23:33                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14  0:12                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13 16:12                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-14  5:12                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14 14:13                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-15  2:09                                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-15  3:40                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-16  1:51                                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16 10:35                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-17  1:04                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-17  3:46                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-17 23:59                                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-17  5:46                                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-14  9:24                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-10 23:28                         ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2005-12-11  4:56                           ` Pretest? [was: Re: bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object] Nick Roberts
2005-12-11 16:49                           ` bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-07 20:04         ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-06 21:05   ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2005-12-07 17:06     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-06 21:55   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-06 22:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-06 16:41 ` Richard M. Stallman

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