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From: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:09:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1EmiYY-0002xi-3s@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zmn3wyv9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:13:14 -0500)

    The "fix all bugs" policy probably worked well back in the days when
    the development source was closed to all but a handful of developers.

The rate at which we're getting bug reports is not unusual for pretests.
back when I did all the work myself, I often got bug reports at that
rate or even faster.  But I had time to fix them.

When we start a pretest, and we get more people trying it, the rate of
bug reporting normally increases.  In the old days, I would fix all
the reported bugs before making each pretest.  And before making the
final release, too.  Normally that would take just a few weeks each
time.  (It usually got faster as the pretest process advanced.)

The difference now is that not that we get more bug reports
but that we fix them more slowly.

Does that mean we have to abandon the practice of making pretests and
releases with all bugs fixed?  Many people are taking that for granted.
I have been hoping, rather, to convince people to do more fixing
so that we could maintain our old standards.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-15  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-05 17:32 bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object Ken Raeburn
2005-12-06  7:50 ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-06 11:44   ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-06 15:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-06 15:52       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-06 16:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-06 16:30           ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-07 20:12             ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-08  4:54               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-08  8:59                 ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-09  1:41                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09  4:36                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-09  5:06                       ` Henrik Enberg
2005-12-09  5:16                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-09  9:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2005-12-10  4:14                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09 21:14                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09 21:14                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-09 21:54                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-10  9:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-11  5:02                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-11 14:43                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-11 22:57                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-12  5:11                                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13  3:14                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-11 22:57                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-12  5:18                                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13  3:14                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-13  3:53                                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13 23:33                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14  0:12                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-13 16:12                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-14  5:12                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14 14:13                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-15  2:09                                           ` Richard M. Stallman [this message]
2005-12-15  3:40                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-16  1:51                                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-16 10:35                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-17  1:04                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-17  3:46                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-17 23:59                                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-17  5:46                                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-14  9:24                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-10 23:28                         ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-11  4:56                           ` Pretest? [was: Re: bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object] Nick Roberts
2005-12-11 16:49                           ` bootstrap problem with union Lisp_Object Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-07 20:04         ` Ken Raeburn
2005-12-06 21:05   ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2005-12-07 17:06     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-06 21:55   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-06 22:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-06 16:41 ` Richard M. Stallman

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