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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Several suggestions for image support
Date: 19 Apr 2004 12:34:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m38ygsi7cv.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x58ygs8kng.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> 
> > >> Of course, scrolling through large images should be possible, anyway,
> > >> and quite independent from that fanciful features.  Emacs already has
> > >> set-window-vscroll in its display engine in order to deal perfectly
> > >> well with that.
> > > Yes, and it could probably be done entirely in lisp !?
> > 
> > I already suggested to use two new primitives (that have incidentally
> > been requested for other purpose):
> > 
> >      point-to-pixel
> > and
> >      pixel-to-point
> > 
> > which turn a (displayed) buffer position into a display position and vice
> > versa.  All the rest should then be reasonably easy to do in Elisp.
> 
> I don't see how.  Absolutely not.  Emacs moves point out of images.
> Without stopping points, point will not remain inside of the image
> anywhere.  

At least it could deal sensible with vscrolling through a partially
visible image without moving point out of the image until there is
some other visible line to move it to.

Stefan, isn't it be necessary to have some indication of whether
vscrolling will have any effect, i.e. whether the cursor line is
currently fully visible, or if there are N pixels invisible at the top
and M pixels invisible at the bottom?  E.g. a current-row-visibility
function which returns nil if fully visible and a cons (N . M)
otherwise.

>            And I certainly can't draw a cursor box over a selected
> area of an image.  Or have mouse highlighting over a selected area.

My image slice changes allows you to do exactly that, as each slice of
the image is inserted as a separate display property.

Re. image maps, I decided that for an image slice, the code still
references the image map of the full image, but restricted to the
current slice. So if you want each image slice to have specific
properties, you must create an image map corresponding to the actual
slicing of the image.

Of course, you may also put properties on each slice, as each slice
corresponds to a separate buffer position.

I will try to complete my changes during this week.

> 
> I am still thinking about Kim's proposal (horizontal slices with
> vertical subslices) with regard to use under preview-latex.  It would
> certainly cater for pretty much every important application I
> currently have in mind.

Doing "free positioning (and rotation/orientation/scaling)" of images
and text is on my to-do list for 22.x.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-19 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-16  0:21 Several suggestions for image support David Kastrup
2004-04-16  9:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-04-16 14:02   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16 12:50     ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-16 16:59       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16 15:18         ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-16 10:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16  9:09   ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-16 10:06   ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 12:38     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16 11:09       ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-16 11:34         ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 12:29           ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-16 12:56             ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 17:08         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-16 13:39     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 13:49       ` David Kastrup
2004-04-17  7:16 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-17 13:02   ` Werner LEMBERG
2004-04-17 19:24     ` David Kastrup
2004-04-17 18:03   ` David Kastrup
2004-04-18 21:30     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-19  1:51       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19  7:57         ` David Kastrup
2004-04-19 10:34           ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-04-19 14:29             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 15:17               ` David Kastrup
2004-04-19 15:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 15:56         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-19 14:15           ` David Kastrup
2004-04-19 21:59             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-21  0:53         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-21  1:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20 23:31   ` David Kastrup
2004-04-21  3:04     ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-22  0:43       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-22  1:18         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-04-22 22:03           ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-23  4:02             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-04-24 14:48               ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-21 10:10     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-21  8:51       ` David Kastrup
2004-04-21 12:51         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-22 17:40       ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-22 18:17         ` David Kastrup
2004-04-24 14:26           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-22 23:53         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-22 23:02           ` David Kastrup
2004-04-23 12:36             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-23 15:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-23 15:05               ` David Kastrup
2004-04-23  0:33           ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-23  0:51             ` David Kastrup
2004-04-23 12:58               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-23 14:53                 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-24 14:27               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-24 15:16                 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-25  1:56             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-25  2:06               ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26  9:38                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27  0:34                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 22:50                     ` David Kastrup
2004-04-27  1:30                       ` Miles Bader
2004-04-27  9:30                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 13:22                           ` David Kastrup
2004-04-27 14:00                             ` David Kastrup
2004-04-28 10:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-28 10:58                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29  0:29                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-28 22:52                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29 13:31                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-29  2:06                     ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-29 10:00                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30  1:54                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-29  2:20               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-25 18:09           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-29  0:17             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-28 23:02               ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29  9:51                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-29  8:08                   ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29 11:24                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30  1:07                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 11:31                   ` David Kastrup
2004-04-30 14:21                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 13:30                       ` David Kastrup
2004-04-30 13:49                       ` preview-latex in Emacs (was: Several suggestions for image support) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-01  9:44                   ` Several suggestions for image support Richard Stallman
2004-05-01 19:56                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-02 19:52                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03  9:19                         ` David Kastrup
2004-04-30  9:02               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-30 11:27                 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-30 14:19                   ` Kim F. Storm
     [not found]   ` <E1BGiB8-00087H-Tz@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <x5brljkgk5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
2004-04-22 23:32       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-22 21:50         ` David Kastrup

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