From: Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm>
To: hw <hw@adminart.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some developement questions
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:47:00 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zhwxqc3v.fsf@fgunbin.playteam.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y3chqre4.fsf@toy.adminart.net> (hw@adminart.net's message of "Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:16:51 +0200")
On 04/09/2018 16:16 +0200, hw wrote:
> Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> writes:
>
>> On 31/08/2018 01:49 +0200, hw wrote:
>>
>>> Filipp Gunbin <fgunbin@fastmail.fm> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 29/08/2018 22:52 +0200, hw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I ended up getting stuck in the help documentation of info and
>>>>> actually had to kill the buffer to be able to start over because I
>>>>> couldn't get anywhere else from there.
>>>>
>>>> You could use `C-h m' to find about Info-history-back which is bound to
>>>> `l'. Or Info-history (`L') for the history.
>>>
>>> And how would I know this?
>>
>> The same way as a user would know about `C-h k' or other basic help
>> commands. If a user doesn't know them (from manuals or tutorials), then
>> she probably should not switch off menu/tool bars. Just to not get
>> lost.
>
> Ok, Emacs should be able to automatically switch on or off the menu (and
> perhaps the tool bar) depending on the mode of a buffer.
Emacs cannot guess for the user when she needs or does not need a menu
bar or a tool bar. You have to instruct it to, somehow.
> Info mode should understand the contemporary key bindings M-left and
> M-right to go back and forth in the history. (Those are bound to
> movement by word, which is probably not extremely useful in info
> buffers.)
>
> Should I make a feature request?
It's very useful. At least for me - when I read info, I usually move
the cursor by word or by sentence.
Well, this thread looks like you're describing how you fight with Emacs
defaults. You could make your own set of customizations and see what
comes out of it. Maybe others will find them useful.
Have you looked at Emacs derivatives, like Spacemacs? I think they
should be closer to "modern" editors than vanilla Emacs.
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2018-08-17 20:49 ` Some developement questions Ergus
2018-08-18 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22 12:34 ` hw
2018-08-22 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22 16:37 ` hw
2018-08-22 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-22 22:17 ` hw
2018-08-23 0:20 ` Ergus
2018-08-23 10:50 ` hw
2018-08-23 16:33 ` Ergus
2018-08-23 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-23 8:26 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-08-23 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-24 1:00 ` hw
2018-08-24 9:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 0:45 ` Ergus
2018-08-26 12:46 ` hw
2018-08-25 1:31 ` hw
2018-08-25 7:35 ` Alexis
2018-08-25 10:34 ` Ergus
2018-08-25 16:11 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-08-25 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-25 20:34 ` Ergus
2018-08-26 2:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 1:24 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-08-25 20:50 ` Ergus
2018-08-26 1:33 ` hw
2018-08-26 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 22:51 ` hw
2018-08-27 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 20:42 ` hw
2018-08-29 6:59 ` Michael Albinus
2018-08-29 20:10 ` hw
2018-08-31 13:16 ` Michael Albinus
2018-09-01 17:53 ` hw
2018-09-03 13:35 ` Michael Albinus
2018-09-04 14:06 ` hw
2018-08-29 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-29 20:52 ` hw
2018-08-29 22:12 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-08-30 23:49 ` hw
2018-09-03 18:56 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-04 14:16 ` hw
2018-09-04 19:47 ` Filipp Gunbin [this message]
2018-09-05 20:36 ` hw
2018-09-06 1:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-06 5:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 5:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-09-06 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-06 14:30 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07 7:03 ` hw
2018-09-06 13:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-07 7:01 ` hw
2018-09-06 18:15 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-07 7:18 ` hw
2018-09-07 14:10 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-07 21:27 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:29 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-10 18:18 ` hw
2018-09-11 9:51 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-09-11 20:14 ` hw
2018-09-12 1:18 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-08-30 2:12 ` Davis Herring
2018-09-01 17:40 ` hw
2018-09-01 19:41 ` Joshua Branson
2018-09-02 15:07 ` hw
2018-09-02 18:23 ` Ergus
2018-09-04 15:21 ` hw
2018-09-04 20:57 ` Ergus
2018-09-05 21:48 ` hw
2018-09-01 22:13 ` Phil Sainty
2018-09-02 15:39 ` hw
2018-09-02 22:01 ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-03 7:30 ` martin rudalics
2018-09-04 15:35 ` hw
2018-09-04 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-05 22:21 ` hw
2018-09-03 7:29 ` martin rudalics
2018-09-01 22:30 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-02 16:02 ` hw
2018-09-02 17:50 ` Ergus
2018-08-30 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-31 0:40 ` hw
2018-09-01 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-02 16:27 ` hw
2018-09-02 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-04 15:43 ` hw
2018-09-04 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-05 22:40 ` hw
2018-08-30 23:30 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-09-01 18:25 ` hw
2018-09-02 19:05 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-09-02 20:42 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-09-03 2:37 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-09-04 15:57 ` hw
2018-08-26 20:41 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-27 2:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-27 22:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-27 17:11 ` Filipp Gunbin
2018-08-28 3:41 ` Ergus
2018-08-26 13:06 ` hw
2018-08-27 2:18 ` Ergus
2018-08-25 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-26 14:25 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-08-26 15:52 ` hw
2018-08-26 16:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-08-27 4:59 ` hw
2018-08-27 1:54 ` Ergus
2018-08-27 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-08-28 21:26 ` Richard Stallman
2018-08-29 15:39 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-01 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-02 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-02 17:52 ` Ergus
2018-09-04 15:20 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-04 13:07 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-05 6:26 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-06 0:29 ` hw
2018-09-07 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-07 8:01 ` hw
2018-09-07 10:26 ` Phil Sainty
2018-09-07 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-07 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-07 16:00 ` Drew Adams
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2018-09-07 16:03 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07 14:15 ` hw
2018-09-07 15:34 ` Phil Sainty
2018-09-07 21:03 ` hw
2018-09-07 15:52 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-08 5:13 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-08 13:02 ` hw
2018-09-08 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08 23:23 ` hw
2018-09-09 5:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 9:35 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 19:27 ` hw
2018-09-10 13:52 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-09 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-09 6:07 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-09 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-09 17:18 ` Ergus
2018-09-10 11:59 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 19:48 ` hw
2018-09-11 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-11 20:31 ` hw
2018-09-06 13:59 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-04 12:58 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-04 16:30 ` hw
2018-09-04 19:13 ` Paul Eggert
2018-09-04 20:11 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-04 20:31 ` Paul Eggert
2018-09-06 12:32 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-06 14:25 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-04 21:14 ` Ergus
2018-09-05 2:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-05 6:29 ` Paul Eggert
2018-09-05 7:59 ` Joost Kremers
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2018-09-09 20:07 ` Joost Kremers
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2018-09-10 5:16 ` Yuri Khan
2018-09-10 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 8:26 ` Yuri Khan
2018-09-10 12:06 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:44 ` Michael Albinus
2018-09-10 14:57 ` Yuri Khan
2018-09-10 19:58 ` hw
2018-09-11 6:31 ` Yuri Khan
2018-09-11 20:37 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-06 1:11 ` hw
2018-09-06 1:41 ` Ergus
2018-09-07 8:11 ` hw
2018-09-06 12:29 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-06 14:24 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-07 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-07 8:25 ` hw
2018-09-07 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-07 13:22 ` hw
2018-09-07 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-07 16:34 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07 21:29 ` hw
2018-09-08 6:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08 13:12 ` hw
2018-09-08 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 11:52 ` hw
2018-09-10 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 20:04 ` hw
2018-09-08 17:00 ` Charles A. Roelli
2018-09-08 23:02 ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-10 6:47 ` hw
2018-09-10 14:13 ` Drew Adams
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2018-09-09 2:09 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-09 23:05 ` Drew Adams
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2018-09-06 14:56 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-06 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-09-06 23:47 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-07 8:16 ` hw
2018-09-04 20:38 ` Ergus
2018-09-06 12:58 ` Phillip Lord
2018-09-07 8:45 ` hw
2018-09-03 22:15 ` debounce (was: Some developement questions) Juri Linkov
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2018-08-16 13:34 ` Some developement questions Ergus
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2018-08-16 14:38 ` Aurélien Aptel
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