From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
Cc: Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - design
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 18:21:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvv8u37qki.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tu9oylo4.fsf@gnu.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 21:52:52 +0200")
>> `use-package` looks out of place, since I don't think it offers any
>> facilities to download/install/update/uninstall packages.
> Really? (use-package foobar :ensure t) will download and install the
> foobar package. If it does that itself or tells package.el to do it
> doesn't really matter.
AFAIK it uses package.el for that, tho IIUC `straight.el` hooks into it
so that it installs via `straight.el` for those who use that.
In both cases, `use-package` delegates the job to an actual
package manager rather than being a package manager itself.
> FWIW, I'd select use-package in that question + package.el (for
> deletion) and auto-package-update (missing!) for updates without having
> to manually go through the *Packages* buffer.
Then maybe we should distinguish between the "backend" (package.el here)
and the UI layer on top of it (use-package, list-packages,
auto-package-update, ...)?
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-17 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-17 14:51 Emacs Survey 2022 - design Timothy
2022-05-17 15:38 ` Visuwesh
2022-05-19 14:36 ` Timothy
2022-05-17 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-17 19:52 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-17 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-05-18 4:49 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-18 12:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-18 18:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-19 14:39 ` Timothy
2022-05-17 18:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-19 14:54 ` Timothy
2022-05-19 16:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-20 8:11 ` sr
2022-05-20 23:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-17 19:43 ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-19 15:13 ` Timothy
2022-05-17 22:16 ` Howard Melman
2022-05-17 22:21 ` Howard Melman
2022-05-17 22:44 ` Will Mengarini
2022-05-17 23:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-18 0:15 ` Corwin Brust
2022-05-18 7:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-19 15:51 ` Timothy
2022-05-19 15:54 ` Timothy
2022-05-19 17:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-10 17:48 ` Gregor Zattler
2022-05-18 4:39 ` Visuwesh
2022-05-19 15:48 ` Timothy
2022-05-19 15:18 ` Timothy
2022-05-18 11:19 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2022-05-18 18:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-19 15:30 ` Timothy
2022-05-18 12:47 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-05-19 15:26 ` Timothy
2022-05-18 22:19 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-19 15:38 ` Timothy
2022-05-21 22:46 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-18 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-19 15:41 ` Timothy
2022-05-21 22:46 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-22 11:32 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-05-22 12:03 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-19 5:22 ` Mike Kupfer
2022-05-19 15:44 ` Timothy
2022-05-19 16:17 ` Mike Kupfer
2022-05-19 16:01 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2022-05-23 7:16 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - 1st question Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:14 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 7:18 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - 2nd question Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:17 ` Timothy
2022-05-24 0:21 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-23 7:19 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - 3rd question Jean Louis
2022-05-23 7:24 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - which editor question Jean Louis
2022-05-23 8:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-23 8:14 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:29 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 7:27 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - how you were introduced to Emacs Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:18 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 18:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-23 18:54 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 7:31 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - what features? Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:19 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 7:36 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - email client Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:23 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 7:40 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - nationality Jean Louis
2022-05-23 8:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-23 7:43 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - industry Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:25 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 20:36 ` John ff
2022-05-23 7:45 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - how did you fid out about survey Jean Louis
2022-05-23 17:28 ` Timothy
2022-05-23 18:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-23 8:46 ` Emacs Survey 2022 - design Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-02 8:30 ` Timothy
2022-10-02 16:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-04 1:00 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 7:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-04 7:53 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 8:00 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-04 8:38 ` Po Lu
2022-10-04 9:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-05 16:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-05-22 8:38 Johan Myréen
2022-05-22 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
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