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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  npostavs@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "after" variable watchers
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 11:57:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvtun0nix6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5a8b6fc9-cca8-374c-39f8-3f3d0f83fbca@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 18 May 2021 17:10:47 +0200")

martin rudalics [2021-05-18 17:10:47] wrote:
>>> window_updeco_window is called indirectly from all places that change a
>>> window's decorations, font or size.
>>
>> Would it make sense to call it more lazily, e.g. as part of redisplay
>> (basically, the watchpoints would just set some dirty bits and then at
>> the beginning of redisplay you'd then run `window_updeco_window` on
>> those windows with the dirty bit set)?
>
> That was my first approach given our current implementation of watch
> points.  I spent a couple of weeks on it but it didn't really work out.
> Between the time a variable is set and the time the setting is applied,
> the "realized" values would be inaccurate.  These values are, however,
> needed in too many places before we start redisplaying a window.

What was the problem you encountered when you tried to add:

    if (<dirty>) window_updeco_window (...);

to the getters of the realized values?

> I do not want to exclude that such a lazy approach could work.  But it
> would require more profound changes to the way window sizes and
> decorations are processed than the approach based on "after" variable
> watchers.

You obviously know more about this code, so I can't say much more.
I was just pointing in the direction of using dirty "bits" (it's
actually often better to represent dirty state via things like our
buffer ticks than via actual `dirty` bits) because it's the standard
solution for such problems: experience has usually shown that decoupling
the setting of vars from the execution of the consequences usually leads
to a much more solid design where it's much easier to deal with problems
of inf-loops or (in)efficiency.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17  8:27 "after" variable watchers martin rudalics
2021-05-17 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 16:40   ` martin rudalics
2021-05-17 16:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-18 15:10       ` martin rudalics
2021-05-20 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-24  8:47           ` martin rudalics
2021-05-27 16:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06  7:42               ` martin rudalics
2021-05-17 18:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-17 18:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 18:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-17 18:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-18 15:10       ` martin rudalics
2021-05-18 15:57         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-05-18 17:01           ` martin rudalics
2021-05-20 13:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-24  8:48               ` martin rudalics
2021-05-27 16:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 14:57 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-05-17 16:41   ` martin rudalics

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