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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "after" variable watchers
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 19:01:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8fe3388-87bf-e487-300e-316c1418e1f7@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvtun0nix6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

 > What was the problem you encountered when you tried to add:
 >
 >      if (<dirty>) window_updeco_window (...);
 >
 > to the getters of the realized values?

There are too many implicit "realized" values to make this work nicely.
Think of macros like WINDOW_BODY_PIXEL_WIDTH, WINDOW_BOX_LEFT_EDGE_X,
WINDOW_BOX_RIGHT_EDGE_X, WINDOW_SCROLL_BAR_X or functions like
window_box_height in addition to the things window_updeco_window sets
directly.

 > You obviously know more about this code, so I can't say much more.
 > I was just pointing in the direction of using dirty "bits" (it's
 > actually often better to represent dirty state via things like our
 > buffer ticks than via actual `dirty` bits) because it's the standard
 > solution for such problems: experience has usually shown that decoupling
 > the setting of vars from the execution of the consequences usually leads
 > to a much more solid design where it's much easier to deal with problems
 > of inf-loops or (in)efficiency.

Right.  But note that I implicitly call window_updeco_window also
whenever I change a window's size, for example, from adjust_frame_size
after a frame got resized.  A `window-body-size' or `window-min-size'
call after that would then require to run window_updeco_window too.
Identifying all sorts of such getters is not a very reliable process.
(BTW, identifying all sorts of setters is not that easy either -
face-remap.el alone contains six calls for this.)

I do use a quite extended mechanism for identifying a "dirty" state when
trying to catch changes in windows (see run_window_change_functions) so
I think that I'm not allergic to such a solution.  But in the case at
hand I simply failed to integrate it well in the existing framework.

martin




  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17  8:27 "after" variable watchers martin rudalics
2021-05-17 10:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 16:40   ` martin rudalics
2021-05-17 16:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-18 15:10       ` martin rudalics
2021-05-20 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-24  8:47           ` martin rudalics
2021-05-27 16:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-06  7:42               ` martin rudalics
2021-05-17 18:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-17 18:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 18:54         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-17 18:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-18 15:10       ` martin rudalics
2021-05-18 15:57         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-18 17:01           ` martin rudalics [this message]
2021-05-20 13:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-24  8:48               ` martin rudalics
2021-05-27 16:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-17 14:57 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-05-17 16:41   ` martin rudalics

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