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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: haj@posteo.de (Harald Jörg)
Cc: Emacs Developer List <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: newline-and-indent vs. electric-indent-mode
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 09:49:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlfcluj5u.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnw5yt58.fsf@hajtower> ("Harald Jörg"'s message of "Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:53:55 +0100")

> Many (almost all?) modes bind RET to newline-and-indent,

Any mode which does that should be fixed.  Whether RET indents or not is
a user preference, not something that should depend on the kind of
language you're editing.

> So, whenever a newline is entered,

By that I assume you simply mean whenever `newline-and-indent` is executed?

> there are three calls to the mode-specific indenting function:
>
>  - one call for the current line, caused by electric-indent-mode.  This
>    makes some sense because the line's content might suggest a different
>    indentation than what could be guessed when the line started out as a
>    new empty line.  It is annoying, however, when the mode gets the
>    indentation wrong (which occasionally happens).  It is also
>    superfluous if the character which causes a change in indentation
>    (for example "}") is either itself in electric-indent-chars (as in
>    perl-mode) or handled by the mode's keymap (as in cperl-mode), both
>    resulting in a call to the indenting function.
>
>  - two calls for the following, empty line.  One is caused by '(?\n)
>    being in electric-indent-chars, the other by the current command
>    being newline-AND-INDENT.  This doesn't make any sense.

It sounds like a bug indeed.  I think both having two calls (one for
each line) or having one call (for the new line) could arguably be
correct, but three calls is indeed an error.

> Or should the modes refrain from mapping RET?

Very much so, yes (unless there's a good language-related reason why RET
should behave differently for that specific language).  But that doesn't
change the fact that `newline-and-indent` should work right, including
not calling the indent function redundantly.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-22 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-22 13:53 newline-and-indent vs. electric-indent-mode Harald Jörg
2021-01-22 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-01-22 15:02   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-22 15:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-22 22:43       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-22 22:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-22 23:00           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-22 23:16             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-23  0:45               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-23  3:16                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-24  2:54                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-24  5:29                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-24 21:45                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25  1:56                   ` Madhu
2021-01-25  2:29                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 10:45                       ` Madhu
2021-01-25 11:59                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 14:36                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-25 14:42                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 15:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-25 20:10                               ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-01-26  2:04                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26  2:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-26 15:58                               ` martin rudalics
2021-01-25  3:33                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-22 19:33   ` Harald Jörg
2021-01-22 22:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-23  2:19       ` Harald Jörg
2021-01-23  3:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-23 16:27           ` Harald Jörg

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