From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias?
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2022 10:51:21 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlepzk3ed.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1oeYnl-0006WJ-2X@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 01 Oct 2022 05:28:53 -0400")
> > Sorry, no. We will not start a dispute about renaming eglot, because
> > that would delay its merge, and we don't have time for that luxury.
> > We want eglot to be part of Emacs 29.
>
> We can make this decision in a week.
>
> Now, before including a package in Emacs, is the last good time
> to choose a helpful name.
I don't see any reason why Emacs has to follow Apple's footsteps and
call one of its MUAs "Mail", one of its LSP clients "LSP", etc..
Emacs is about choice, so while as Emacs maintainers we do spend a fair
bit of time trying to consolidate the various options out there so as to
reduce the need for users to make choices, we should force packages to
be named after their functionality, since that leads to inevitably more
name conflicts.
And in the present case, for *very* little benefit since the name "LSP"
is not nearly as widely known as you might expect: most users don't look
for an "LSP client" (because they have no idea what is "LSP") but they
look for some way to get maybe some "IDE functionality" or "code
completion" or things like that.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-01 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-30 8:04 Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Stefan Kangas
2022-09-30 8:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-30 8:59 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-09-30 12:30 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-09-30 11:33 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-09-30 11:38 ` João Távora
2022-09-30 12:18 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-09-30 12:24 ` João Távora
2022-10-02 1:09 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-30 13:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-30 16:21 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-09-30 10:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 9:28 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-01 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 15:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-01 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-03 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-10-01 18:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 1:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-02 1:31 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-02 2:45 ` Yilkal Argaw
2022-10-02 11:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 12:44 ` João Távora
2022-10-02 14:05 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 14:42 ` João Távora
2022-10-02 15:03 ` Manuel Uberti
2022-10-02 15:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-12 11:32 ` Robert Weiner
2022-10-12 11:55 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 13:42 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:54 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2022-10-02 22:17 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-04 1:00 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-02 15:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 20:07 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 11:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 21:30 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 11:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-03 12:34 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 16:35 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-04 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 7:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-04 11:27 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 10:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-06 14:11 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-06 22:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-01 21:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 1:07 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-03 1:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-04 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 2:43 ` Po Lu
2022-10-04 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 21:35 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 23:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 0:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 0:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 0:38 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 1:18 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-07 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 18:18 ` chad
2022-10-09 0:35 ` Po Lu
2022-10-09 14:21 ` chad
2022-10-06 0:36 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 5:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-07 23:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-04 22:01 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-05 10:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-10-05 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-10-05 15:55 ` Alexander Adolf
2022-10-06 22:06 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 22:08 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 22:30 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 23:42 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2022-10-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 3:01 ` Po Lu
2022-10-07 22:48 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 10:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-10-06 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-07 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 10:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 11:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 12:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 15:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-07 22:03 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-08 5:32 ` tomas
2022-10-08 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 7:20 ` tomas
2022-10-08 16:10 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-08 22:17 ` Alexander Adolf
2022-10-09 3:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-11 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-12 13:21 ` Alexander Adolf
2022-10-12 22:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-09 4:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 4:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 6:07 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 7:56 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-10 22:03 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-09 12:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-09 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 14:09 ` Felician Nemeth
2022-10-09 14:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-09 14:45 ` Felician Nemeth
2022-10-09 15:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-14 9:55 ` João Távora
2022-10-11 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-12 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 6:37 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-12 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 9:24 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-12 23:19 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-13 0:17 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-13 0:26 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-12 23:05 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-12 10:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12 22:58 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-14 9:59 ` João Távora
2022-10-13 0:41 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-13 6:03 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-12 13:34 ` Michael Albinus
2022-10-10 22:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-11 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 9:44 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 17:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12 22:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-13 0:47 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-13 6:59 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-13 8:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 10:20 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-13 10:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-13 16:11 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-14 3:56 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-13 22:25 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 1:55 ` Po Lu
2022-10-03 3:28 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 1:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 6:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-14 9:45 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 19:57 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-04 1:03 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 1:40 ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-30 10:31 ` Po Lu
2022-09-30 10:52 ` Eglot manual (Was: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias?) João Távora
2022-09-30 10:32 ` Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? João Távora
2022-09-30 10:46 ` Daniel Martín
2022-09-30 10:50 ` Daniel Martín
2022-09-30 13:19 ` Po Lu
2022-09-30 13:18 ` Po Lu
2022-09-30 13:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-30 14:48 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-02 7:21 ` Christopher M. Miles
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[not found] ` <m28rlwjpx3.fsf@numbchild@gmail.com>
2022-10-04 5:25 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-04 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 21:30 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-04 22:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-04 22:31 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-05 23:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 22:47 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 2:59 ` Po Lu
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2022-10-05 13:21 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-05 10:09 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-04 5:25 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-04 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 8:54 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-04 9:57 ` João Távora
2022-10-04 11:15 ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-10-04 15:19 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-06 23:29 ` Stefan Kangas
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