From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias?
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 14:38:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca8cad6d-19c9-9673-ce21-f983ac079182@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83leproov6.fsf@gnu.org>
On 07.10.2022 14:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 13:12:03 +0300
>> Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
>>
>> On 07.10.2022 09:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> We can (and will) make it easier for
>>> users to understand what its features do, by labeling the menus and
>>> describing in the doc strings and help-echo strings what the commands
>>> and variables really do and what effect they have on Emacs.
>>
>> Indeed we'll probably get the most bang for the buck by adding a menu
>> entry or two which could say something like
>>
>> Language Servers -> Connect
>> Language Servers -> Shutdown
>>
>> without renaming the package or its commands.
>
> Yes, something like that.
>
> Bonus points for adding some relatively-thin layer which would allow
> Eglot to be just one "backend" for language servers' services, so that
> users could use others. But that may be too much for Emacs 29.1.
One or two hooks, shouldn't be hard. But there's no hurry indeed.
>> We could put them alongside EDE's and Semantic's menu entries. Or maybe
>> instead, given that EDE is not the recommended choice for "Project
>> Support" anymore, and we don't usually recommend Semantic to new users
>> either.
>
> Or we could make the EDE/Semantic menus have a sub-menu, whereby the
> user could select which kind of "support" they want.
That depends on whether we want the menus to present an "intro" to Emacs
functionality that doesn't require much reading to pick the right choice.
IMHO that can be the best goal for the menu bar. But you might have a
different understanding of its role.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-07 11:38 UTC|newest]
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2022-09-30 8:04 Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Stefan Kangas
2022-09-30 8:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-30 8:59 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-09-30 12:30 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-09-30 11:33 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-09-30 11:38 ` João Távora
2022-09-30 12:18 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-09-30 12:24 ` João Távora
2022-10-02 1:09 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-30 13:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-30 16:21 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2022-09-30 10:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 9:28 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-01 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 15:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-01 15:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-03 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-03 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-01 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-01 18:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-02 1:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-02 1:31 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-02 2:45 ` Yilkal Argaw
2022-10-02 11:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 12:44 ` João Távora
2022-10-02 14:05 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 14:42 ` João Távora
2022-10-02 15:03 ` Manuel Uberti
2022-10-02 15:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-12 11:32 ` Robert Weiner
2022-10-12 11:55 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 13:42 ` Po Lu
2022-10-12 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-02 19:54 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2022-10-02 22:17 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-04 1:00 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-02 15:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 20:07 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 11:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-02 21:30 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 11:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-03 12:34 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-03 16:35 ` João Távora
2022-10-03 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-04 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 7:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-04 11:27 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 10:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-06 14:11 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-06 22:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-01 21:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 1:07 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-03 1:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-04 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 1:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 2:43 ` Po Lu
2022-10-04 7:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 21:35 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 23:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 0:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 0:38 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 1:18 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 18:18 ` chad
2022-10-09 0:35 ` Po Lu
2022-10-09 14:21 ` chad
2022-10-07 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 0:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 0:36 ` Po Lu
2022-10-06 5:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-07 23:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-04 22:01 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-05 10:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-10-05 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-05 14:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-10-05 15:55 ` Alexander Adolf
2022-10-06 22:06 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 22:08 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-06 22:30 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-06 23:42 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2022-10-07 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 3:01 ` Po Lu
2022-10-07 22:48 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-05 10:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-10-06 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-07 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 10:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 11:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 11:38 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2022-10-07 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 12:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-07 12:34 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-07 15:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-10-07 22:03 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-08 5:32 ` tomas
2022-10-08 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 7:20 ` tomas
2022-10-08 16:10 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-10-08 22:17 ` Alexander Adolf
2022-10-09 3:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-11 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-11 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-12 13:21 ` Alexander Adolf
2022-10-12 22:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-09 4:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 4:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 6:07 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-09 7:56 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-10 22:03 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-09 12:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-09 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-09 14:09 ` Felician Nemeth
2022-10-09 14:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-09 14:45 ` Felician Nemeth
2022-10-09 15:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-14 9:55 ` João Távora
2022-10-11 21:15 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-12 6:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 6:37 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-12 7:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-12 9:24 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-12 23:19 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-13 0:17 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-13 0:26 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-12 23:05 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-12 10:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12 22:58 ` Yuan Fu
2022-10-14 9:59 ` João Távora
2022-10-13 0:41 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-13 6:03 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-12 13:34 ` Michael Albinus
2022-10-10 22:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-11 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-11 9:44 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-11 17:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-12 22:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-13 0:47 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-13 6:59 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-13 8:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 10:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-13 10:20 ` Stephen Leake
2022-10-13 10:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-10-13 16:11 ` Theodor Thornhill
2022-10-14 3:56 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-13 22:25 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 1:55 ` Po Lu
2022-10-03 3:28 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-03 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 1:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-04 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-04 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
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2022-10-04 1:40 ` Yuri Khan
2022-09-30 10:31 ` Po Lu
2022-09-30 10:52 ` Eglot manual (Was: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias?) João Távora
2022-09-30 10:32 ` Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? João Távora
2022-09-30 10:46 ` Daniel Martín
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2022-09-30 13:19 ` Po Lu
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