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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: dirt@gtk.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org
Subject: Re: terminal escapes in Info files?
Date: 28 Oct 2003 12:56:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd6chmezr.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uwuapcmg2.fsf@elta.co.il>

> Because it allows features such as index search that are not
> available in HTML,

Huh?  Why don't the HTML pages generated by makeinfo allow index search?
>From what I can tell they include indices just fine, exactly like
the Info format version.  It can be even better because the hyperref
to the index node can be annotated to indicate it's an index node whereas
the Info format relies on the name used in the menu to tell the
difference between an index node and a non-index node, which
makes it inadequate for non-english text.

Existing HTML browsers suck, but that doesn't mean we can't use the HTML
markup with a specially designed Info viewer (which might not even need to
understand 100% of HTML).

> and yet doesn't support colors, bold/italics, and
> other text attributes that existing text-mode terminals can display.

> For details, see this message (which started this thread):

>   http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2003-10/msg00621.html

This does not answer my question: why enhance the Info format
rather than change the readers (to use the HTML output of makeinfo
rather than the Info output) ?
I don't know about other Info browsers, but Emacs's M-x info has been
recently showing signs of bumping into limits of the Info format which
would be lifted if it used the HTML format instead.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-28 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-28 16:51 terminal escapes in Info files? Karl Berry
2003-10-28 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-28 17:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-28 17:56     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2003-10-28 20:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-28 20:09 Karl Berry
2003-10-29 12:52 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-29 14:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 14:31     ` Andreas Schwab
2003-10-29 17:51       ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-29 18:53         ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-29 18:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 21:08         ` Andreas Schwab
2003-10-29 21:18           ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-29 21:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 15:28     ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-31  2:29     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-10-29 19:02 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 20:06 Karl Berry
2003-10-28 21:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-28 23:41 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-28 20:06 Karl Berry
2003-10-28 17:46 Karl Berry
2003-10-28 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-29 12:20   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-29 14:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 16:24       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-29 17:29         ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-10-29 18:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-30  1:13             ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-10-30  6:10               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-30 22:06                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-11-03 12:19                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-10-30 16:36               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-29 18:40           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-29 19:09             ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-29 20:02               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-29 20:47                 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-29 22:58                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-30  2:37                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-10-30  2:55                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-10-29 17:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 18:00         ` Reiner Steib
2003-10-29 18:43           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-30  4:19     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-30  6:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-31  0:07         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-28 16:50 Karl Berry
2003-10-28  1:26 Karl Berry
2003-10-28 10:51 ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-28 13:48   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-10-30 10:42     ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-28 16:19   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-29 19:02     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:47       ` David Kastrup
2003-10-29 21:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-29 22:39           ` David Kastrup
2003-10-30  6:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-30 18:00         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:01   ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:45     ` Alper Ersoy
2003-10-29 19:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-30 18:00       ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-29 19:02 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-26 12:20 Karl Berry
2003-10-26 12:40 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-10-26 15:40   ` Alex Schroeder
2003-10-27  7:02 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-27 19:29   ` Eli Zaretskii

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